Originally posted by Solidus Snake
nightwing and robin also take their job seriously. just because robin jokes doesnt mean that he wont get the job done. seriousness does not a warrior make.secondly, robin and nightwing go through more h2h fights with real enemies than cyke does in 5 years. although hes skilled, cyke relies too much on his blasts.
No, he doesn't.
http://www.mutanthigh.com/games/martialarts/fight6.html
Cyclops beat those guy's asses blind. 😉
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, he doesn't.http://www.mutanthigh.com/games/martialarts/fight6.html
Cyclops beat those guy's asses blind. 😉
and how often does this happen?
robin does it 4-5 times a week
the only thing cyke could do is out muscle him. but robin is much better trained.
Cyke is way older, therefore way experienced and more skilled. He once defeated Colossus and Rogue by thowing Colossus on Rogue with judo throw. He also took out Shadowcat with nerve pinch. His reflexes were fast enough to dodge a lightning bolt from Storm on the same fight. Cyclops also has black belts on Judo and Aikido.
Cyclops is an expert pilot of fixed-wing aircraft, a skill he appears to have inherited from his father. It has also been implied that his trigonometric sense improves his abilities in the air.A master strategist and tactician, Cyclops has spent most of his superhero career as the leader of either the X-Men or X-Factor, and has developed exceptional leadership skills. It is notable that regardless of their general attitude towards him, all of the X-Men tend to obey his orders in battle - because they know that he's usually right. During his twelve years raising Cable in the distant future, Cyclops (under the alias Slym Dayspring) helped organise a resistance to Apocalypse's rule, becoming one of the leaders of Clan Rebellion.
Cyclops also has extensive training in martial arts and unarmed combat, holding black belts in Judo and Aikido. His level of skill is sufficient to defeat six normal men with his eyes closed, and he has in the past held his own against such dangerous enemies as Wolverine and Ghost Rider.
Cyclops would defeat Robin, he would possibly defeat Nightwing, and he would have good chance against Batman.
so what cyke threw collosus into rogue. any judo blackbelter could. thats what judo is about. using the enemy's size and weight against them.
cyke knows two black belts.
robin and night wing know more.
batman also does nerve pinches.
batman has an unblockable blitz move. read cataclysm where he fought cain. he doesnt use it cause the opponent would die.
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
so what cyke threw collosus into rogue. any judo blackbelter could. thats what judo is about. using the enemy's size and weight against them.cyke knows two black belts.
robin and night wing know more.
batman also does nerve pinches.
batman has an unblockable blitz move. read cataclysm where he fought cain. he doesnt use it cause the opponent would die.
Punisher isn't master in multiple martial arts, he is probably mastered only one or two. Would you say that he will lose to Robin in hand-to-hand combat? It is not the amount you have, it is how you use them. Robin also doesn't have black belt in any fighting styles. He is proficient in them. Nightwing is master in half a dozen martial arts, but he is not going to use all of them in a fight. Cyclops would be able to beat them most of the time.
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
nightwing can take down punisher. punisher has a higher soak than cyke. punisher fights dirty and is a brawler. im not sure who would win h2h between him and cyke.PS robin has mastered alot of stuff.
and all nightwing has to do is switch to a style cyke cant counter well.
Punisher has army training and has fought hand to hand for a long time. I don't think that Nightwing would defeat Punisher. Punisher, like Cyclops is all about efficiency. They use moves that end the fight quick so they don't have to spend much time in it. Being in the X-Men is much like being in army. And Cyclops has similar training. He has fought Wolverine without using his powers and did well, something that Nightwing could not do. Nightwing is more like acrobat, he usually focuses on dodging on attacks, and trying to stop his enemy in as peaceful way as he can.
Think about that, Cyclops has practiced two different Martial Arts, Judo and Aikido. He has practiced them for 25 years. Nightwing has divided his time between six. He is only practiced martial arts for about fifteen years. He can't be as good in all the martial arts he has practiced as Cyclops is in his own. And he surely doesn't have time to use all of his techniques in the fight. In a way, Cyclops is better in Martial Arts then Nightwin.
cyke knows 2 and night wing knows 6, so cyke is a better martial artist?
if they are all on the highest level, but nightwing uses his all the time, and cyke uses his seldomly cause he prefers to blast ppl, cyke is the better martial artist?
th bat guys have taken out soldiers before, well armed and well trained soldiers too. batman is the ultimate survivor. nightwing is up there too. cyke goes down.
Blind guys give Batman problems.
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
cyke knows 2 and night wing knows 6, so cyke is a better martial artist?if they are all on the highest level, but nightwing uses his all the time, and cyke uses his seldomly cause he prefers to blast ppl, cyke is the better martial artist?
th bat guys have taken out soldiers before, well armed and well trained soldiers too. batman is the ultimate survivor. nightwing is up there too. cyke goes down.
Nightwing knows six, but because of his age and amount of martial arts he practices on the same time, he can't possible be as good in every one of them as Cyclops is in Judo and Aikido. And Cyclops doesn't use martial arts all the time because he doesn't have to, I mean, if you have an gun, you are not going to hit people with it? But Cyclops constantly engages in exercise for hours in one day, so he is in top shape. Besides, the two styles are surely enough to fight against Nightwing, like I said, it is not the amount, it is how you use them.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerQuality over quantity.
Nightwing knows six, but because of his age and amount of martial arts he practices on the same time, he can't possible be as good in every one of them as Cyclops is in Judo and Aikido. And Cyclops doesn't use martial arts all the time because he doesn't have to, I mean, if you have an gun, you are not going to hit people with it? But Cyclops constantly engages in exercise for hours in one day, so he is in top shape. Besides, the two styles are surely enough to fight against Nightwing, like I said, it is not the amount, it is how you use them.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Nightwing knows six, but because of his age and amount of martial arts he practices on the same time, he can't possible be as good in every one of them as Cyclops is in Judo and Aikido. And Cyclops doesn't use martial arts all the time because he doesn't have to, I mean, if you have an gun, you are not going to hit people with it? But Cyclops constantly engages in exercise for hours in one day, so he is in top shape. Besides, the two styles are surely enough to fight against Nightwing, like I said, it is not the amount, it is how you use them.
Efficiency and Execution.
u have obviously missed the point.
as i said if thay are at the HIGHEST profeciency of black belt in each of thir arts (which is a safe assumption) the fact that nightwing has more techniques would prove he's a better warrior.
and i dont blame cyke for using his beams, all im saying is that id rather face a man who does not use his fighting skills as regularly than a man who uses them every night.
and they both train intensively.
nightwing knows and has mastered more ways to beat cyke than vice versa.