wolverine countless MORE feats of healing things such as mortal wounds after mortal wounds in an adsurdly fast amount of time...DON'T COUNT....because....there are at least several different examples of when the healing factor DIDN'T work that fast..........
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(I can't help it cord....that's assinine. I thought we are supposed to use these characters at their best...even you've said so.)
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not saying he won't take the damage, I'm saying he'd heal before it affected him.
Um, how do you heal a burn before you are actually burned? Heal a cut before you are cut? Wolverine isn't The Hulk insofar that his gamma radiation is a form of cancer -- the angrier/stressed he gets, the faster he heals (remember what Vector did to him? Recall Hulk healing his guts so fast that his hand got stuck in there? Recall Gladiator burning that hole Hulk's chest?)
If he healed before it affected it him, it would never affect him right? Unless I'm not understanding what you are saying correctly.
As far as his adamantium absorbing impact, then why is he ever knocked out? Again, adamantium isn't vibranium. It doesn't negate impact. If you punch Wolverine, he's moving.
That was just more...interesting writing. We sit here and debate this crap because writers are NOT consistent. It is akin to writing code -- everyone writes/interprets his abilities a tad differently.
Wolverine is NOT a rival of Hulk's.
In crossovers meant to entertain the majority. Its going to leave a questionmark.
Hulk hasn't done it latley either.
Thats why people think only tyrant, and G are ko'ing him, they must discern.
Nooone wants to see another get ko'ed in a match.
I find it odd that weaker villans make a crack hitting him in middair with no leverage, but grounded, at 15 tons he doesn't slide UP nor DOWN...s
Can he do it logically yes, this isn't here to please fans, its to describe the likelihood of something happening, given what you've got.
Given that this is a hypothetical matchup with special conditions: being tied and such, he has a worse chance, guess whats the apple on the concrete, being smashed by the sledge hammer.
Wolverine's head and facial structure resist more,but with this proificiency of attack, it works against him, and in this situation,(grounded with leverage), there's some things to keep in mind...
I just want to make 4 things clear here, with regards to ANY character:
1: Inertia, if you were to hit a punching bag(the small coordination one , dexterity training), you see it reacts. It moves around, alot. Same with a person, except with the inside. If you were to hit someone in the head, the victim inside would feel the force (brain). The energy just doesn't stop at the inital hit.
2: Stronger metal absorbs such forces less. People often mistake the adamantium for not feeling any damage, and the adamantium absorbing ALL of the damage. The reverse is true, tougher metals absorb less because their bonds don't give in to the force. If I were to drive an indestructable car, and collide with something (wall) with a great force, I would still get tossed around, moreso even. In fact newer cars actually give MORE support to the victim by moving in to absorb more damage of collsion. In short, the adamatium ABSORBS the hits fine.
3: The velocity in attacks are there to make the hit into an even greater effect.
A 30000 lifter with the starting velocity of (300-400mph first sec), is stronger than many realize. The writers don't often include that (everything would die, or a character holds back), but its all included here, because this is a HYPOTHETICAL argument.
4: Using that SAME TOKEN, just because a char was hit by a 100 ton lifter, than that doesn't mean the hits were at 100 tons. If I were to get hit by WW and stand up, I wouldn't go "I survived a 100 ton hit", so its hard to measure hits in comics, because often you'll see a guy like batman do more damage to a guy, than a hit by flash.
Thats all.
Wolverine takes shots from spidey because writers aren't scientists, they aren't doctors, they are writers. They aren't writing the stories to be accurate, they are writing them to be entertaining. In reality, Spider-man would hit logan and he'd get whiplash. If that happened in the comics, there'd be no point to reading the comic.
If you want to argue that Spider-man has failed to K.O. Logan three times in the past, you're right. But I can also argue that, those writers had no idea what they were talking about, because based on scientific fact, the results would not be the same. So, if you want to look at this fight from the actual comics perspective, Spidey isn't K.O.ing Wolvie, if you want to look at it hypothetically, using science to prove points, then he should beat the crap out of him like it's nothing.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine takes shots from spidey because writers aren't scientists, they aren't doctors, they are writers. They aren't writing the stories to be accurate, they are writing them to be entertaining. In reality, Spider-man would hit logan and he'd get whiplash. If that happened in the comics, there'd be no point to reading the comic.If you want to argue that Spider-man has failed to K.O. Logan three times in the past, you're right. But I can also argue that, those writers had no idea what they were talking about, because based on scientific fact, the results would not be the same. So, if you want to look at this fight from the actual comics perspective, Spidey isn't K.O.ing Wolvie, if you want to look at it hypothetically, using science to prove points, then he should beat the crap out of him like it's nothing.
Agreed, noone wants to see a character getting ko'ed like noones business with THAT popularity.
They write for the majority to be entertaining, the majortiy haven't a clue of the stats of the character. They see spiderman with webs, and wolverine with claws.
When I read a comic, I may see a char lift something too heavy. So!?!? I'm not digging in my heels about it, but when something ridiculous is brought into a debate, thats different.
You must see it in a hypothetical prospective,because we aren't rewriting a story, we are looking at A vs. B, and judging on what they got.
I wouldn't bet my money on the one who brought less to the table, regardless of if I liked them more, no more than I would in real life.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine takes shots from spidey because writers aren't scientists, they aren't doctors, they are writers. They aren't writing the stories to be accurate, they are writing them to be entertaining. In reality, Spider-man would hit logan and he'd get whiplash. If that happened in the comics, there'd be no point to reading the comic.If you want to argue that Spider-man has failed to K.O. Logan three times in the past, you're right. But I can also argue that, those writers had no idea what they were talking about, because based on scientific fact, the results would not be the same. So, if you want to look at this fight from the actual comics perspective, Spidey isn't K.O.ing Wolvie, if you want to look at it hypothetically, using science to prove points, then he should beat the crap out of him like it's nothing.
Yes wolverine sucks, and if he wins anything its the writers. I so agre. ✅