Mace Wendu Stronger than Palpatine
I think palpatine was trying hard to defeat Mace and he still lost. I don't know why people always say palpatine let him win. I doubt palpatine would have paid the price of looking like shit by getting getting his own lightening shot deflected back at himself just to act like he was losing.
The lightning thing was probably just a quick hit that he didn't expect mace to block. Or maybe he knew mace would block it back his way and that would tick off anakin more. But Sids did give mace the fight. Sids would've pimp-slapped Windu if he didn't need Anakin. Sids main goal was to bring Anni to the dark side. After that it was to live to see the creation of the empire.
Originally posted by mace wendu4
But the fact that Wendu did deflect the blast showed that he was more powerful than Sid thought. If Anni hadn't showed up, sid would've been sliced. and what were you gonna say ast rofan?
Sidious had it planned out, he was doing that so anakin would turn to the dark side.
Originally posted by mace wendu4
But the fact that Wendu did deflect the blast showed that he was more powerful than Sid thought. If Anni hadn't showed up, sid would've been sliced. and what were you gonna say ast rofan?
He deflected the lightning because he already had his lightsaber up, he probably didn't even know the saber would save him. It was the luck of the moment.
D0do, please don't resort to name calling.
Originally posted by mace wendu4
even if he had his lightsaber up, it takes alot of strenght to not be blasted away with those blasts. All I know is Mace can kick Sids ass anytime
I agree with D0do on this point, there is no proof otherwise. Sidious was probably not using full strength, and sure Mace does have some strength, he's a Jedi.
This is basically your opinion, just like ours are opinions as well. Unless we have a definative answer from George Lucas or Lucasfilm, all we have is our thoughts.
Call me arrogant or contemptuous if you must, but I actually don't care what Lucas says. All that I go by is what it shown on the screen - if something is not shown to be obviously one thing or another then it is left for me, the viewer, to decide what is true. Here, I think it is quite obvious that Palpatine knew exactly what he was doing every step of the way. Of course if someone (Lucas or not) points out to me something that I've missed or something I didn't think about then I may change my mind, but no one has done this yet...
Originally posted by Captain REX
I agree with Dodo. He watched Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, as did I, while everyone else watched Star Wars Episode III-and-a-half: Revenge of the Sith but Not Quite Because Windu Lives and Palpatine Sucks. 😛Since I AM JEDI is going to ask for it, and not go find the threads regarding Mace Windu vs. Darth Sidious... *sigh*
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A LONG TIME AGO, IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY...
[b]STAR WARS
EPISODE III
REVENGE OF THE SITHPalpatine was playing Mace Windu the entire time. Here is my proof, which Devil Dodo was also providing, for you to ignore it was very silly and pointless...
At the start of the fight, Palpatine whips out his lightsaber and in two or three swings, he manages to stab Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin, both accomplished swordsmen, Jedi Masters, and Council members. They die in mere seconds after the fight begins. After sparring with Mace and Kit Fisto for a few moments, he manages to slash Kit Fisto across the stomach, and he too is an accomplished swordsman, Jedi Master, and Council member.
Now, Mace Windu goes on the retreat, Palpatine pushing him back.
At this point, we see Anakin debating whether he should be there or not, and he leaves the Temple.
Also at this point, Mace Windu starts to own Palpatine. Why? Because Palpatine can sense Anakin is on his way.
They continue fighting, Mace smashes the window approximately the same time as Anakin's landing. Palpatine loses his lightsaber just seconds before Anakin walks in. Why? Because Palpatine can sense Anakin is in the building.
Mace Windu has Palpatine at lightsaber point, and is ready to kill him. Anakin says that they shouldn't, it's not the Jedi way. Palpatine starts pleading for his life like a cowardly fool, after his face-melting barrage of lightning, but constantly looks to Anakin with an insidious glare after each whiney, begging comment about the Jedi trying to kill him and take over the Republic.
When Anakin takes action and literally disarms Mace Windu, Palpatine springs to his feet as if he had been winning the entire time. Palpatine cooks Mace Windu like a large black sausage, then hurls him out the window. Mace Windu, lacking an arm and in intense pain from the lightning assault, falls to his death, unable to do anything to stop his fall.
Later on, Palpatine fights Yoda. During this fight, they are sparring equally the entire time. Palpatine and Yoda meet one another blow for blow, and though you can tell Palpatine fears Yoda, fear can always be turned to the advantage of a Sith Lord; they feed their powers off of negative emotion. In the end, Yoda is defeated, because Sidious has disarmed his lightsaber and tossed him a very long way to the bottom of the Senate chambers. Sidious, once again, is victorious.
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Summary: Palpatine easily kills three Jedi Masters, they begins to lose when he senses Anakin leaving the Temple, and then begins his ploy to pull Anakin to the Dark Side by putting his own life at risk.
Yes, he could have lost everything. Yes, Anakin could have not turned, and Mace would have killed Palpatine. Yes, Palpatine put all his plans at great risk to turn the Chosen One to the Dark Side. No, he is not weak. No, Mace Windu did not beat him. [/B]
Yup, I'm just going to copy paste this for every damned 'Mace beat Palps because Palps is less powerful!' thread that is posted.