When does a thread become racist

Started by Wickerman8 pages
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No it isnt. Its not an extreame in the slightest, its the reality - the origins of the word and the meaning work [b]exactly the same. [/B]

That is not the case here. We're talking about race. There is a biological difference between caucasians and africans, therefore caucasians are a different race than africans. The word CAN be used to be insulting, but saying that it has an insulting meaning EVERY time it is used (in reference to people) IS taking it to the extreme.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You messed up a quote, but i understood 😛

Yes - i believe the comments are ok. I feel free to critisize religion, its something chosen, while place of birth and colour are not.

So then the question becomes this - Why is it okay to criticize people because of their religion but not because of their skin color? Both are equally as trivial and harmless to other people, both are part of what makes the person who they are, yet ones okay to make fun of but one isn't? Just because one is chosen and the other isn't?

Originally posted by Wickerman
So what are "caucasian, african and mongoloid" ?

~wickerman~

Good question. Let's ask our good friend Evolution and see what he says, if his political\religious opponent Creationism dosen't object. 😉

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And when have I questioned the validity or the corectness of the terms? I said two replies above that accademics use ''ethnicity'' to substitute ''race''. Of course both are correct - but one is more segretory than the other.

You not seeing a differance does not suprise me either.

I understand it now, since you explained it. And i see no reason for the word "race" to be replaced with "ethnicity" . Because there IS no reason. It's in no way offensive unless used to be that way.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Good question. Let's ask our good friend Evolution and see what he says, if his political\religious opponent Creationism dosen't object. 😉

While we're at it we can ask our good friend "Evolving in different parts of the globe" since he would have a better answer 😉

~wickerman~

Originally posted by BackFire
So then the question becomes this - Why is it okay to criticize people because of their religion but not because of their skin color? Both are equally as trivial and harmless to other people, both are part of what makes the person who they are, yet ones okay to make fun of but one isn't? Just because one is chosen and the other isn't?

Why do you critisize Christians?

Religions are ideologies. Nazism was ok until it was imposed on other people. Communism was fine on paper until few tried to implement it all around.

Bush is using Bible to get Abortion banned.

See the differance?

Originally posted by Wickerman
I understand it now, since you explained it. And i see no reason for the word "race" to be replaced with "ethnicity" . Because there IS no reason. It's in no way offensive unless used to be that way.

~wickerman~

And you speak in the name of all black, hispanics, latin americans, south asians, asians, middle eastaners and whites?

Again I think we are off topic.

I think the question is simple does KMC forums accept racism or not?

Why do you critisize Christians?

Religions are ideologies. Nazism was ok until it was imposed on other people. Communism was fine on paper until few tried to implement it all around.

Bush is using Bible to get Abortion banned.

See the differance?

No.

Then you need to directly criticize the few people who are using religion as a scapegoat and an excuse for their actions, rather then the religion as a whole. Saying "this religion is bad" is a generalization, no different then saying "this race of people is bad". You can't be okay with one form of criticism while against the other, it's hypocritical.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And you speak in the name of all black, hispanics, latin americans, south asians, asians, middle eastaners and whites?

I'm speaking for myself. I'm assuming you don't have a worldwide statistic to show either, to include all you've listed....or do you? cause i'd love to see a worldwide statistic saying where the majority say "I don't like to be thought of as a different race because i see it as a derogatory term, i prefer the term ethnicity"

~wickerman~

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Why do you critisize Christians?

Religions are ideologies. Nazism was ok until it was imposed on other people. Communism was fine on paper until few tried to implement it all around.

Bush is using Bible to get Abortion banned.

See the differance?

Gotcha..looks good on paper, falls apart in practice. Same old same old...

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Again I think we are off topic.

I think the question is simple does KMC forums accept racism or not?

Not conciously.

Originally posted by BackFire
Not conciously.

Fair enough

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Again I think we are off topic.

I think the question is simple does KMC forums accept racism or not?

Racism is not accepted as per the rules, but i'm sure there are a few racist users, and a lot of racist comments splattered here and there. Mods can only do so much if people don't use the "report" function

~wickerman~

Bad bad racists. Lets scorn them for having an opinion on a certin race.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You messed up a quote, but i understood 😛

Yes - i believe the comments are ok. I feel free to critisize religion, its something chosen, while place of birth and colour are not.

So it is okay to say something like

OK Europe, are you now ready to listen to why we must exterminate all Muslims? These people aren't peaceful and this will end only when all muslims are exterminated.

or

All thanks to these selfish Muslim camel f*****s. They've declared holy war on us all, I don't understand why the rest of the world hasn't realized that yet.

(These quotes are from a different forum.)

That is still generalization. I, personally don't think it is okay. No matter if it is chosen or not, ALL Muslims shouldn't be badmouthed because of a small minority of them.

it annoys me in the fact that black people can call black people nigga's..and yet white people are somewhat scum if they call it a black person..the hypocrisy .and yet we are all suppose to be equal...another thing that annoys me is that it seems only white people can be the rascists...more often the case anyway .i just wish everyone could live in fuking peace and quit the racsism.

example:
in england a boy of eleven is to face a criminal trial for what is described as a "glorified schoolyard incident". When he was still ten, he was taunted by an Asian classmate at a school in Ipswich for being overweight and was likened to a tellytubby. The overweight boy then allegedly called his taunter a "Paki bastard" and punched him twice in the back. Neither taunt was very pleasant, but for goodness sake this banter goes on between kids all over the world every day. I went to a school in Leicester with a high black and Asian ratio of students and I was called an English or white bastard (and worse) many times. But so what? Its just playground talk, just teasing between kids, that's all.''

For God's (or No God's) sake it is JUST A BODY. And if people are offended by references to their bodies, well they can just as easily choose not to be offended. What this nonsense is doing is making people choose their words so carefully that it is having an increasingly subconscious affect on our ability to open our mouths and speak without watching every last word and assessing the consequences first. A better definition of psychological fascism I cannot imagine.

Originally posted by KidRock
Bad bad racists. Lets scorn them for having an opinion on a certin race.

Don't you have a bridge to crawl under troll?

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Deano
it annoys me in the fact that black people can call black people nigga's..and yet white people are somewhat scum if they call it a black person..the hypocrisy .and yet we are all suppose to be equal...another thing that annoys me is that it seems only white people can be the rascists...more often the case anyway .i just wish everyone could live in fuking peace and quit the racsism.

example:
in england a boy of eleven is to face a criminal trial for what is described as a "glorified schoolyard incident". When he was still ten, he was taunted by an Asian classmate at a school in Ipswich for being overweight and was likened to a tellytubby. The overweight boy then allegedly called his taunter a "Paki bastard" and punched him twice in the back. Neither taunt was very pleasant, but for goodness sake this banter goes on between kids all over the world every day. I went to a school in Leicester with a high black and Asian ratio of students and I was called an English or white bastard (and worse) many times. But so what? Its just playground talk, just teasing between kids, that's all.''

For God's (or No God's) sake it is JUST A BODY. And if people are offended by references to their bodies, well they can just as easily choose not to be offended. What this nonsense is doing is making people choose their words so carefully that it is having an increasingly subconscious affect on our ability to open our mouths and speak without watching every last word and assessing the consequences first. A better definition of psychological fascism I cannot imagine.

I hope your just missing the point in this thread Deano

I believe the initial question of the thread has been answered..........any point in continuing the thread?

~wickerman~