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I dont a scanner. I qoute it.
Wolverine : Im stronger,Im faster, ...and tougher. so how come it always feels likes shes playing with me.
Elektra hello logan
wolverine Man I hate ninjas
Elektra, your stronger faster, so why do you always loose
She beat his ass in some other issue but this issue of marvel rise of the imperfects, part 1 that qoute happened.
Out of continuity means plenty. I love how people conveniently use them to support an already flawed argument. You people act as if out of continuity comic books are incorrect, inaccurate depictions of a character and their abilities. The writers are quite aware of what the characters are capable of and, with a FEW few exceptions, they are on point. It just so happens that most people simply use them to disagree when painted into a corner.
Captain Marvel using magical lightning in Kingdom Come to bring Superman to his knees. Perfectly in line with what Captain Marvel can do, considering magic items/magic renders Superman vulnerable.
Batman beating Superman's arse in Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back. Perfectly in line with what Batman is capable of doing with preparation and resources. Did Superman go all out? No. Is Superman a killer? No. Batman knows this and almost always uses it against him. Batman is THE king of prep amongst nigh ANY non-cosmic in JLA. Period. Give him prep time and he will bring down the entire JLA.
Whoops, he already did.
Elektra destroying Wolverine in Elektra and Wolverine by Greg Rucka. Despite what most of you claim, Elektra is a top-tier martial artist/ninja. She is just an eensy notch below Shiva. She is a killer. Wolverine is not. She is much quicker and faster than Wolverine. She has been trained by far better mentors (I dare any of you to challenge Stick's martial arts prowess). She punched two holes in Wolverine's chest and left him for dead. He landed *one* blow and she purposely led him in to expose himself. He did. She landed. Game over.
I have the mini-series. My scanner is at work. If any would like exact quotes and/or scans, say the word.
Originally posted by Never
Out of continuity means plenty. I love how people conveniently use them to support an already flawed argument. You people act as if out of continuity comic books are incorrect, inaccurate depictions of a character and their abilities. The writers are quite aware of what the characters are capable of and, with a FEW few exceptions, they are on point. It just so happens that most people simply use them to disagree when painted into a corner.Captain Marvel using magical lightning in Kingdom Come to bring Superman to his knees. Perfectly in line with what Captain Marvel can do, considering magic items/magic renders Superman vulnerable.
Batman beating Superman's arse in Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back. Perfectly in line with what Batman is capable of doing with preparation and resources. Did Superman go all out? No. Is Superman a killer? No. Batman knows this and almost always uses it against him. Batman is THE king of prep amongst nigh ANY non-cosmic in JLA. Period. Give him prep time and he will bring down the entire JLA.
Whoops, he already did.
Elektra destroying Wolverine in Elektra and Wolverine by Greg Rucka. Despite what most of you claim, Elektra is a top-tier martial artist/ninja. She is just an eensy notch below Shiva. She is a killer. Wolverine is not. She is much quicker and faster than Wolverine. She has been trained by far better mentors (I dare any of you to challenge Stick's martial arts prowess). She punched two holes in Wolverine's chest and left him for dead. He landed *one* blow and she purposely led him in to expose himself. He did. She landed. Game over.
I have the mini-series. My scanner is at work. If any would like exact quotes and/or scans, say the word.
Was Redeemer in continuty Never?
For the record I also think Rucka has no clue whats going on, his run on Wolverine was crap... I'd ignore it completly if the art wasnt good.
Originally posted by Never
Out of continuity means plenty. I love how people conveniently use them to support an already flawed argument. You people act as if out of continuity comic books are incorrect, inaccurate depictions of a character and their abilities. The writers are quite aware of what the characters are capable of and, with a FEW few exceptions, they are on point. It just so happens that most people simply use them to disagree when painted into a corner.Captain Marvel using magical lightning in Kingdom Come to bring Superman to his knees. Perfectly in line with what Captain Marvel can do, considering magic items/magic renders Superman vulnerable.
Batman beating Superman's arse in Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back. Perfectly in line with what Batman is capable of doing with preparation and resources. Did Superman go all out? No. Is Superman a killer? No. Batman knows this and almost always uses it against him. Batman is THE king of prep amongst nigh ANY non-cosmic in JLA. Period. Give him prep time and he will bring down the entire JLA.
Whoops, he already did.
Elektra destroying Wolverine in Elektra and Wolverine by Greg Rucka. Despite what most of you claim, Elektra is a top-tier martial artist/ninja. She is just an eensy notch below Shiva. She is a killer. Wolverine is not. She is much quicker and faster than Wolverine. She has been trained by far better mentors (I dare any of you to challenge Stick's martial arts prowess). She punched two holes in Wolverine's chest and left him for dead. He landed *one* blow and she purposely led him in to expose himself. He did. She landed. Game over.
I have the mini-series. My scanner is at work. If any would like exact quotes and/or scans, say the word.
Originally posted by Never
Out of continuity means plenty. I love how people conveniently use them to support an already flawed argument. You people act as if out of continuity comic books are incorrect, inaccurate depictions of a character and their abilities. The writers are quite aware of what the characters are capable of and, with a FEW few exceptions, they are on point. It just so happens that most people simply use them to disagree when painted into a corner.Captain Marvel using magical lightning in Kingdom Come to bring Superman to his knees. Perfectly in line with what Captain Marvel can do, considering magic items/magic renders Superman vulnerable.
Batman beating Superman's arse in Dark Knight Returns and Dark Knight Strikes Back. Perfectly in line with what Batman is capable of doing with preparation and resources. Did Superman go all out? No. Is Superman a killer? No. Batman knows this and almost always uses it against him. Batman is THE king of prep amongst nigh ANY non-cosmic in JLA. Period. Give him prep time and he will bring down the entire JLA.
Whoops, he already did.
Elektra destroying Wolverine in Elektra and Wolverine by Greg Rucka. Despite what most of you claim, Elektra is a top-tier martial artist/ninja. She is just an eensy notch below Shiva. She is a killer. Wolverine is not. She is much quicker and faster than Wolverine. She has been trained by far better mentors (I dare any of you to challenge Stick's martial arts prowess). She punched two holes in Wolverine's chest and left him for dead. He landed *one* blow and she purposely led him in to expose himself. He did. She landed. Game over.
I have the mini-series. My scanner is at work. If any would like exact quotes and/or scans, say the word.
indeed
Sadly, I can confirm what they're saying. It's all true, and Wolverine admitted it again this past issue of his own series. Elektra got owned by Gorgon (again) even after both Wolverine and Elektra ambushed him and had all kinds of tech to prevent him from using any of his powers. Wolverine, having seen said ownage, then thought to himself, "You're a world class ninja, Elektra. If he did that to YOU, what chance do I have?".
So according to Millar, at least, Elektra > Wolverine. Also, he believes that Daredevil > Wolverine. Now, that's just one writer's view of it, and Millar is slightly biased, given that he basically created Elektra.
Personally, I can't accept it either way. There doesn't have to be a set hierarchy for every single character in my opinion.