Don't use stats from the handbook or Marvel.com. we use comic book feats to judge comic book characters in comic book vs. Matches.
And Hand ninjas are the cannon fodder of the MU. Killing scores of them is as impresive as beating the Rhino
as for who would win. I don't know i hate both charecters and the only stuff I read about elektra has been in Bendis DD where she is the leader of the Hand.
Originally posted by Jose123
Don't use stats from the handbook or Marvel.com. we use comic book feats to judge comic book characters in comic book vs. Matches.And Hand ninjas are the cannon fodder of the MU. Killing scores of them is as impresive as beating the Rhino
as for who would win. I don't know i hate both charecters and the only stuff I read about elektra has been in Bendis DD where she is the leader of the Hand.
The hand are the elite when it comes to ninja's. That's a well established Marvel U fact. Each one of them is as lethal as twelve average hand-to-hand combatants so I would say that killing scores of them requires some skill. As far as Wolverine's feats go, read Wolverine "bloodsport, not dead yet, and some early claremont issues of Wolverine. Before Rucka, Wolverine had legions of super-human enemies far beyond his power level. He was either able to defeat or stalemate all of them. We are taking about someone who stalemated Windego and Hulk numerous times. Wolverine's strength level and speed level are not nearly as impressive as most of his foes. Heck, among the entire cast of Wolverine characters, I imagine Wolverine is one of the weakest. That must attest to his skill level. It's been well-established throughout Cannon that Wolverine is easily one of the most skilled fighters in the marvel U. I don't really feel like listing all of his feats, but I do suggest you read books like "bloodsport." During those episodes, Wolverine won the bloodsport tournament by defeating some of the worlds greatest fighters. As has been pointed out, he defeated Mr.X - a man who made Taskmaster look ridiculous. Anyway, even if Wolverine were less skilled than Elektra, his physical assets would surely make up for it. And he would never, ever admit that she is his superior or act like a total wimp in front of her.
Originally posted by demigawd
Sadly, I can confirm what they're saying. It's all true, and Wolverine admitted it again this past issue of his own series. Elektra got owned by Gorgon (again) even after both Wolverine and Elektra ambushed him and had all kinds of tech to prevent him from using any of his powers. Wolverine, having seen said ownage, then thought to himself, "You're a world class ninja, Elektra. If he did that to YOU, what chance do I have?".So according to Millar, at least, Elektra > Wolverine. Also, he believes that Daredevil > Wolverine. Now, that's just one writer's view of it, and Millar is slightly biased, given that he basically created Elektra.
Personally, I can't accept it either way. There doesn't have to be a set hierarchy for every single character in my opinion.
I think Demi, was getting Mark Millar confused with Frank Miller ?
Originally posted by marvelprince
Wolverine should win. While he is not as skilled a fighter as Elektra has healing factor and claws make up for it. Won't be easy but will be a win
In the Enemy of the State, she managed to beat him, by piercing one his nerve endings with her knife, causing paralysis. IMO Wolverine is an A- lister, and has shown he can handle himself against various city level threats. Electra looses the majority although I still think Enemy of the State is Mark Millers best work.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
In the Enemy of the State, she managed to beat him, by piercing one his nerve endings with her knife, causing paralysis. IMO he still above her. IMO Wolverine is an A- lister, and has shown he can handle himself against various city level threats. Electra looses the majority although I still think Enemy of the State is Mark Millers best work.
I remember that but I also remember that he was trying to fight the programming of Hydra at the same time.
Agreed with everything else in your post though, Enemy of the State was some good work. It showed Wolverine is no one to mess with but it didn't have him doing things that were obviously above his abilities. There was a nice balance there
Originally posted by marvelprince
I remember that but I also remember that he was trying to fight the programming of Hydra at the same time.Agreed with everything else in your post though, Enemy of the State was some good work. It showed Wolverine is no one to mess with but it didn't have him doing things that were obviously above his abilities. There was a nice balance there
The idea of heroes going on rampages, is a bit a novel but popular idea. Its always good seeing how powerful a characters is compared to their various heroic comerades. For example Its working really well in the current Iron man book.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
The idea of heroes going on rampages, is a bit a novel but popular idea. Its always good seeing how powerful a characters is compared to their various heroic comerades. For example Its working really well in the current Iron man book.
Yeah, Its always nice to see how heroes compare to their contempararies
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
In the Enemy of the State, she managed to beat him, by piercing one his nerve endings with her knife, causing paralysis. IMO Wolverine is an A- lister, and has shown he can handle himself against various city level threats. Electra looses the majority although I still think Enemy of the State is Mark Millers best work.
Electra beat Wolverine... who MOMENTS before the fight was at deaths door being kept alive by high tech SHIELD machinery and on top of that he was already engaged in combat when she attacked him. Why even bring it up? It isn't relevant at all. It would be like if I waited out side of a Muscle Therapy Clinic for some guy who was trying to get his limbs out of atrophy... and then bashed him in the back of the head with a crowbar while he wasn't looking. I'm not going to go around after and be like "I totally kicked that guys ass!"