Take the versus fanboy test....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm doing Thor and Wally West.

Namor - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Spiderman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Venom - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Carnage - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Taskmaster - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Elektra - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Daredevil - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Doctor Octopus - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Sandman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Hydroman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Omega Red - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Sabertooth - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Mr. X - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Cyclops - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Xavier - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Magneto - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Nightcrawler - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Ryu - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Ken - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Bison - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Akuma - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Iron Man - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Hulk - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Shang Chi - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Karate Kid - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Apocalypse - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Storm - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Shadowcat - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Green Goblin - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Hobgoblin - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Godzilla - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Silver Surfer - Thor wins. Wally West could win depending on his mindset.
Firelord - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Human Torch - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Dr. Doom - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Thing - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Tyrant - Thor loses. Wally West loses.
Zarathos - Thor wins. Wally West would win.
Dormammu - Not in his realm, unless Thor pulls out a God Blast or what he did against Surtur/Ymir etc.
Dr. Strange - Either win without autoshields on.
Deathstroke - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Batman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Gambit - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Deadpool - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Superman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Wonder Woman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Green Arrow - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Hawkeye - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Wasp - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Thor - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Odin - No.
TOAA - Lol.
Living Tribunal - No.
Galactus - It's possible for Thor. His already done it. Wally West doesn't have the power set. Unless you think Speed Stealing would work....
Krypto - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Supergirl - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Tombstone - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Morlun - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Kraven - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Invisible Woman - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Magneto - Thor wins. Wally West can win.
Quicksilver - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Scarlet Witch - Depends on which Scarlet Witch.
Havok - Depends on which Havok.
Jean Grey - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Phoenix - Depends on which Phoenix.
Mickey Mouse - They get stomped.
Cable - Thor wins. Wally West can win.
She Hulk - Thor wins. Wally West wins.
Thanos - It's possible for either to win.
Iceman Thor wins. Wally West wins.

Do you think Thor would score a win on an average Galactus? Or is this below average?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm still reading, but I'm curious, what would be SS's best method of winning against Thanos? He has the versatility, but loses. How would he win on the forum?

He would likely lose a forum match because by and large a character's on panel track record overrides the logical conclusions of a battle outside the confines of a plot driven scenario (for example, Hulk beats Gladiator, Superman beats Darkseid, Magneto beats Apocalypse, or Fury beats Jaspers, despite what logic and abilities would dictate). When it suits someone's argument story trumps common sense. Surfer is one of the few characters that at base has the tools to defeat a non augmented Thanos, it's just not plotted that way because Thanos, by premise, plays the part of Norrin's foil in their plotted stories. Eventually a story will be written where Surfer gets pissed and dominates a revived Thanos, then public perception and the win ratio will sway a bit. Until then, the stories will prevail over the tools/overall resume, and week to week a character's stock will rise and fall based on a plot.

Originally posted by illadelph12
He would likely lose a forum match because by and large a character's on panel track record overrides the logical conclusions of a battle outside the confines of a plot driven scenario (for example, Hulk beats Gladiator, Superman beats Darkseid, Magneto beats Apocalypse, or Fury beats Jaspers, despite what logic and abilities would dictate). When it suits someone's argument story trumps common sense. Surfer is one of the few characters that at base has the tools to defeat a non augmented Thanos, it's just not plotted that way because Thanos, by premise, plays the part of Norrin's foil in their plotted stories. Eventually a story will be written where Surfer gets pissed and dominates a revived Thanos, then public perception and the win ratio will sway a bit. Until then, the stories will prevail over the tools/overall resume, and week to week a character's stock will rise and fall based on a plot.

I dunno, because of the amount of support/wank that Thanos gets, I don't know if Surfer would get the support right away without an upgrade. Then again some people were going around parading with that new Sentry showing too.

So would he use some sort of distance strategy on Thanos?

I don't think it's as much range as it is output. Surfer would need to be playing for keeps and going for killing strikes in whaterver he does. He'd have to "Mrrungo-Mu" Thanos (if you've read The Enslaver arc you know the reference). Anything less equals Surfer getting served up a two piece and a biscuit.

Is that "Jggg" Jean Grey the classic whirly troll? 🙂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do you think Thor would score a win on an average Galactus? Or is this below average?

The original Galactus he defeated was at least decently feed. They retconned it into being weakened, which makes no sense to anyone whose read the comic.

So yea, with the God Blast Thor can take down an average Galactus no problem. The average Galactus we see, is always weakened in some way or form for plot sake.

So what is "average Galactus level" to you? How many times better would he be to Thanos or someone similar?

I myself feel a godblast could possibly drive off a very weak Galactus though.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So what is "average Galactus level" to you? How many times better would he be to Thanos or someone similar?

I myself feel a godblast could possibly drive off a very weak Galactus though.

How Galactus appears on average. Weakened due to plot or hunger.

What about Thanos?

Possibly drive off a very weak Galactus?

He almost killed a well feed Galactus if he hadn't fleed. Granted he had just fought Ego but as I recall, Galactus was completely unharmed and was even bragging. It was retconned into being a weakened Galactus, but at the very least, it's a fact that he can drive off Galactus weakened to an extent.

I guess, in my opinion I feel that Galactus' average on an average showing would win against Thor, now could Thor hurt him with a Godblast? I think he could. I just don't see him winning every time against him. Or generally even.

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Now someone believes Thor>Ave G

^Average Galactus is always weakened. I don't see what's the problem of a God Blast being used to beaten a weakened Galactus. Especially since it's happened. After the retcon.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I guess, in my opinion I feel that Galactus' average on an average showing would win against Thor, now could Thor hurt him with a Godblast? I think he could. I just don't see him winning every time against him.

Eh it depends on what level Galactus is at. I've seen Thor rock Galactus even without a God Blast when he was weakened once. Pretty sure it was cannon. It was around Fantastic Four #270.

I mean, Thor's life force is strong enough to save Galactus' life from Death and restore his power. Reed used a machine to channel Thor's power into Galactus. Not far fetched that it could defeat him.

Thor won't use his God Blast every time, so he won't be winning every time. The God Blast is basically one of his only options to stand up against Galactus. Outside of that, there isn't much Thor can do.

Do you believe that was a fair showing on Galactus' behalf, or more of a good Thor showing?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Marvel Godzilla was pretty tough. It nearly stalemated Thor once in a contest of strength. I.e they were pushing against each other with a skyscraper in between. Thor was putting dents into it with his blows though.

He has the fire power to put down Thanos. I.e the God Blast, or the attack he used to rip through the fabric of space and one shot Surtur with the Twilight Sword and Ymir at the same time.

You mean when he BFR'd Surtur/Ymir when they were rolling around with each other?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I just meant out of all of his appearances, that one seems like a good match for Hulk, but they have stronger and weaker Godzillas as well. Ones that have thermonuclear breath astronomically hot, and others who would lose to the Hulk without too much trouble.

Indeed, there are stronger and weaker Hulk's as well.

I mean, Hulk's not God. Get a strong enough Godzilla with those uberblasts, he could beat standard Savage Hulk. But the question is of standard enraged Savage Hulk versus standard enraged Godzilla. And that breath. Hulk's tanked nukes before. Why not the breath?

Anyway.

I think they retconned the Thor vs Big G thing because they decided it was a hasty decision. Thor shooing off Galactus? Thanos eats guys like Silver Surfer, Hulk, and Thor for breakfast, but Galactus eats Thanos for brunch. Brunch! Look what happened to Hercules when he slugged Big G. So how would Thor even on his best day actually manage to send Galactus scurrying away? Big G should pwn top-tiers 10/10. But they have Thor mace him with a godblast, and Sentry -allegedly - stalemating a half powered Big G? That should theoretically open the possibility of defeat at the hands of many opponents. Hulk, Surfer, Hercules, Odin should pwn, and why then has Thanos always had so much trouble? You see what happens when you let someone beat Galactus?

And lastly.

That Godzilla monster that stalemated Thor? Hulk's stalemated Thor as well. So, Hulk could stalemate that monster. But really, against such a straight forward monster, Hulk would win. Thor could've ended that fight with the monster with a few blasts, the same one Thor always uses to end it with Hulk. Not even Thor's hardest hits ever manage to drop Hulk. It's usually the blast. With Hulk's blunt soak and healing factor, I think he stands to take a majority if not 100% against most standard showing big monsters. Think of it in trading card game terms. If level 10 is standard Thor, Hulk, Surfer, Hercules, etc, and level 20 is Odin, Zeus, FP Galactus, and put level 10 Hulk against level 15 Godzilla, then Hulk certainly stands to lose a bit.

Originally posted by Master Court
Indeed, there are stronger and weaker Hulk's as well.

I mean, Hulk's not God. Get a strong enough Godzilla with those uberblasts, he could beat standard Savage Hulk. But the question is of standard enraged Savage Hulk versus standard enraged Godzilla. And that breath. Hulk's tanked nukes before. Why not the breath?

Anyway.

I think they retconned the Thor vs Big G thing because they decided it was a hasty decision. Thor shooing off Galactus? Thanos eats guys like Silver Surfer, Hulk, and Thor for breakfast, but Galactus eats Thanos for brunch. Brunch! Look what happened to Hercules when he slugged Big G. So how would Thor even on his best day actually manage to send Galactus scurrying away? Big G should pwn top-tiers 10/10. But they have Thor mace him with a godblast, and Sentry -allegedly - stalemating a half powered Big G? That should theoretically open the possibility of defeat at the hands of many opponents. Hulk, Surfer, Hercules, Odin should pwn, and why then has Thanos always had so much trouble? You see what happens when you let someone beat Galactus?

And lastly.

That Godzilla monster that stalemated Thor? Hulk's stalemated Thor as well. So, Hulk could stalemate that monster. But really, against such a straight forward monster, Hulk would win. Thor could've ended that fight with the monster with a few blasts, the same one Thor always uses to end it with Hulk. Not even Thor's hardest hits ever manage to drop Hulk. It's usually the blast. With Hulk's blunt soak and healing factor, I think he stands to take a majority if not 100% against most standard showing big monsters. Think of it in trading card game terms. If level 10 is standard Thor, Hulk, Surfer, Hercules, etc, and level 20 is Odin, Zeus, FP Galactus, and put level 10 Hulk against level 15 Godzilla, then Hulk certainly stands to lose a bit.

A good Godzilla is a like a Big Hulk with projectilesl. With his massive size and similar abilities I saw him able to KO Hulk early on for the most part.

Bizump.

I'm no fanboy, I just know that Spidey and Namor could take absolutely anyone without being crippled by CIS/PIS. What? 😗

Thor>Dr. Doom>TOAA

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'm no fanboy, I just know that Spidey and Namor could take absolutely anyone without being crippled by CIS/PIS. What? 😗

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Who would win between Spiderman and Namor?

He'll just web the inside of his throat when Namor gasps for breath due to exhaustion from trying to hit him, then Namor will suffocate.😎