Why I'm better than god....

Started by Council#1332 pages

can you rephrase that?

Originally posted by Council#13
can you rephrase that?

Alright:

"God is not all powerful."

Better?

yah, but why?

Originally posted by Council#13
yah, but why?

Because it is impossible to be all-powerful.

why so?

Omnipotence paradox. You cannot make a rock so heavy you cannot lift it. Yet, at the same time, since you are supposed to be omnipotent (Can do all things), it shouldn't be impossible. Yet it is according to logic.

God can do it. He simply can change his levels of, say strength, to lift that rock he makes

Originally posted by Council#13
God can do it. He simply can change his levels of, say strength, to lift that rock he makes

But then he didn't create a rock he can't lift.

O rly? Is this where "faith" transcends reason again?

Originally posted by Bardock42
But then he didn't create a rock he can't lift.

he created a rock that he cannot lift when he is weak.

Originally posted by Council#13
he created a rock that he cannot lift when he is weak.

Yeah, but he didn't create a Rock that he cannot lift.

he created a rock he cannot lift as a weak insect

Point is, God is omnipotent ALL the time. So there is no single time when he should not be able to pick up the rock. But the very idea of the rock being TOO heavy to lift, while satisfying to the definition of omnipotence, contradicts God being able to lift it because of... omnipotence.

Originally posted by Council#13
he created a rock he cannot lift as a weak insect

Yes, but can he create a Rock he just can not lift?

probably. then he will be able to lift it a second later

Originally posted by Council#13
probably. then he will be able to lift it a second later

Then he didn't create a rock he can not lift.

he then created a rock he could not lift at the MOMENT he created it. he could lift it soon afterwards

Alright, lets adjust the question: "Can God create a Rock that he can NEVER lift"?

well, the rock would eventually wear down, and therefore god can lift up all the little pieces

Originally posted by Council#13
God can do it. He simply can change his levels of, say strength, to lift that rock he makes

Originally posted by Council#13
well, the rock would eventually wear down, and therefore god can lift up all the little pieces

WOW

Just..wow.

Did you just make that up?

I don't think you understand what exactly Bardock and Wesker are saying. Unfortunately, they've made it just about as simple as anyone can make it, so if you're still too stubborn to see what they're talking about, then there's no hope for you.