Black Adam vs Thor

it's an old issue, very early 80's. i made a point for a little while of snatching up every appearance of black adam i could get. i just always liked him and seeing him battle supes was like a dream match.

Superman and Black Adam will be fighting sometime soon, in a Villians United/Infinite Crisis crossover, into one of Superman's titles, I think. Hopefully BA kicks his ass.

As for strength and power levels, Superman, Black Adam and Captain Marvel are all about equal, it's usually the writers being dumb and messing it up. Black Adam seems more powerful because he's more experienced and is a badass. Superman seems more powerful because he's Superman and needs to be all "I'm Superman, you stand no chance of beating me." Captain Marvel seems less powerful because writers tend to turn him into a walking joke, like some 8 year old kid taken right out of the 50s, all wide eyed and starstruck with his "golly gosh" and "gee whiz." That's dumb, Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, CM3, and lord help me Hoppy the Marvel Bunny should be kicking all kinds of ass all over the place. They're in their mid-late teens, 16+ years old. I'm 16, if I had that kind of power, I sure as hell wouldn't be saying "golly gee." And I sure as hell would kick the shit out of Superman if we ever decided to have a friendly superhero misunderstanding fight for no good reason other than sales.

I think Thor will have to give everything if he wants to win. BA does not hold back and is bad.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's an old issue, very early 80's. i made a point for a little while of snatching up every appearance of black adam i could get. i just always liked him and seeing him battle supes was like a dream match.

#830 ended with BA and Superman getting ready to clash.

<<Next month in Action Comics #831 your wish will come true.
#830 ended with BA and Superman getting ready to clash.>>

hmm, may have to come out of collector's returement for that one . . . 😄

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Adam or Supes both are stronger than Marvel😄

Sure of that? Alex Ross claims Marvel is the strongest.
Otherwise, he'll have to give up the title of World's Mightiest Mortal.

They are all equal in sterength.

Black Adam and Superman are just way better fighters than Marvel. And smarter fighters at that.

Ive never heard of Ross saying that Marvel is stronger than Supes. I have however read many quotes saying that Marvel and Supes are equal in strength.

Reason for Captain Marvel being called "Worlds Mightiest Mortal" is because hes Earth bound. Superman isnt from this planet. Plus Superman is immortal.

"Adam or Supes both are stronger than Marvel"

Dc must be crazy to print comics when Marvel has defeat Adam, and has been showed to equal Superman and having an advantage toe to toe, in some fights.

The three are rougly equal.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Shazam is still around Billy is not and yes its Cannon in the sense at present thats the same timeline, like the Legion is, unlike the Kingdom timeline, but that could all change, thats hypertime. What it does show is that Supes does not die of old age, ergo he is immortal and yes its canon.

But I guess you think Iron Man is Invincible as well😖hifty:

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly🤘

I'm not convinced its canon. Another future is shown in Frank Miller's DK2, where Supes is slowing down at 60, and needs to be rescued by his daughter, Lara.
If it's set in stone, might as well stop buying Superman now; nothing will change in the next million years.

Originally posted by jrodslam
They are all equal in sterength.

Black Adam and Superman are just way better fighters than Marvel. And smarter fighters at that.

Ive never heard of Ross saying that Marvel is stronger than Supes. I have however read many quotes saying that Marvel and Supes are equal in strength.

Reason for Captain Marvel being called "Worlds Mightiest Mortal" is because hes Earth bound. Superman isnt from this planet. Plus Superman is immortal.

Mortal just means dying of old age, whether you're an Earthman or Alien.
I saw the Ross quote, I believe, when he's discussing art for Captain Marvel in the hardcover DC Art of Alex Ross. It's what he thinks.

No roughrider. A Mortal is a human being.

Superman isnt a human being. Hes an alien.

Originally posted by jrodslam
No roughrider. A Mortal is a human being.

Superman isnt a human being. Hes an alien.

When Beta Ray Bill was first hanging around Asgard, Sif was given words of warning about becoming attached to him, because, in their words, "he is mortal", not beacause he is an alien. Understand yet?

Whats mortal about Beta Ray?

Martal - A being subject to death. A human being. Subject to death; destined to die; as, man is mortal.

Got it?

No. Again.

Beta Ray Bill is an Alien who, despite his power, will not live forver and will die. He is mortal. You are saying that because Superman is an Alien to Earth he is not mortal. This is besides the arguement about Superman in particular, regarding Superman1million and his potential, in particular, to be immortal, which I am not convinced is canon, yet.

You are making the simple statement that beacuse someone is Alien to Earth they are not mortal ie. subject to death, which is completely untrue.
Be clear in what you are saying, is all. Argue that Superman in particular is not mortal? Fine. There is something there.
Don't say anyone who is Alien to Earth is not mortal. Wrong term.

Ok. Captain Marvel is the "Worlds Mightiest Mortal" because

1. He's Earth bound.
2. Hes mortal. He cannot live forever unless he stayts Captain Marvel forever i believe.

Superman is not the Worlds Mightiest Mortal" because

1. Hes not Earth bound.
2. Hes immortal.

I didnt just mean Supes wasnt mortal just because he was alien. I know it seemed that way, but i got carried away with the whle "Earthling Mortal" thing. Sorry about not being clear in what i was trying to say.

In in regards to his immortality not being cannon it is. I just found out about a week ago, in a Flash scan.

Originally posted by roughrider
I'm not convinced its canon. Another future is shown in Frank Miller's DK2, where Supes is slowing down at 60, and needs to be rescued by his daughter, Lara.
If it's set in stone, might as well stop buying Superman now; nothing will change in the next million years.

draco has made a good case for ww being stronger than hercules, (her power base being grounded in gaea, which it to say the earth itself)ergo, stronger than marvel. it's also been said in ww that only superman surpasses her in strength. ww and supes have good, close fights, but supes is usually depicted to be the stronger.

using the dc hierarchy, it SHOULD go:

1. superman
2. wonderwoman
3. captain marvel/black adam.

that's JUST physical strength, mind, and doesn't factor in fighting skills and magic. i DON'T think there is enough of a difference among them for strength alone to determine the outcome of any fight between them. durability is a big one, and how the others exploit supes's weaknesses would also help determine a winner between any of them. i'd actually say marvel would finish last among this group with adam third and ww second.

i also think thor would beat adam OR ww in hellacious battles.

That listing would work, but only if Captain Marvel and Black Adam are at standard levels.

Remember, CM has stacked powers to make him equal to Superman. And other times as well.

All right, then.

Well - just beacuse he can be immortal doesn't mean events of Superman1million happen; potential alternate future/elseworld/whatever.
So, I guess things can continue to happen with him with immortality, just like Thor.
So my statement earlier of 'forget buying Superman for the next million years' doesn't count for anything.