cap. marvel (shazam) v silver surfer

many believe that without his weaknesses that ss can so easily exploit, superman could beat ss. can the world's mightiest mortal do it?

oh, and i looked for this thread. if it HAS been made i didn't see it, though i admit i was surprised it hadn't been done.

The first thing kgkg is gonna say is that Norrin is too fast.

Well when Norrin fought Thor and lost his speed wasnt a factor so I dont see why it would be here.

at the risk of earning kg's wrath (🙂) i'd tend to agree with you. + the magic lightning. i think cm has a great chance here.

Well Storm lighting did hurt him.

I wonder what CMs lighting would do to him?

He just has to knock Norrin off his board, and its over for Surfer.

well, considering he;s had a magic dagger thrust through his body, i'd say his chances against the magic lightning aren't all that favorable . . .

course, SOMEONE'S bound to disagree . . .

🙂

He could teleport his board to the Rock of Eternity I guess.

Norrin is alot weaker without his board.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, considering he;s had a magic dagger thrust through his body, i'd say his chances against the magic lightning aren't all that favorable . . .

course, SOMEONE'S bound to disagree . . .

🙂

Silver Surfer wins

He is more powerful than BRB, Quasar, Adam , Strange , Champion need I say more.

And ya he can do virtually anything, am sure you guys heard of Captain Marvel.

Surfer still wins. A bit more difficult though. Marvel doesn't have that K-nite weakness, and his powers are magical based. Storm's lightning practically gave Surfer an orgasm. It didn't hurt him. Surfer will win. But not easily.

SS > all other heros many times you will see Silver Surfer to be the most powerful.

CM is not more powerful than BRB , Strange , Worklock

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He could teleport his board to the Rock of Eternity I guess.

Norrin is alot weaker without his board.

And even if he is at rock of eternity SS can go to any dimension by ripping space and time space and time

And is CM resistant to matter manipulation, I don’t think so.

<<SS can rip his body to piece by changing and smashing his atoms in space/time?>>

name one fight where ss won by doing this to an opponent. he changed obliterator's weapons, but didn't touch pbliterator himself.

Here's how I see it...

Thor > Cpt. Marvel (Shazam)
Surfer = Thor (possibly a little better even)

Surfer takes it, but Billy puts up a good fight.

-DM

yeah, i tend to agree. i'd say ss 7/10. if cm had supes durability, i'd give hm better chances. i'm also not convinced he's as fast OR as . . . mean/nasty as supes can sometimes get in a war like this one would be.

course, i'm not sure the effect the lightning would have. i may be underestimating its effects, i'm not sure.

Il'll go with Surfer, more often than not. CM does stand a chance, but I don't think avoiding CM's lightining would be a big problem for Surfer. Most of the time, Surfer takes this.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<SS can rip his body to piece by changing and smashing his atoms in space/time?>>

name one fight where ss won by doing this to an opponent. he changed obliterator's weapons, but didn't touch pbliterator himself.

He has turned people into stone with little effort, however. It's a viable tactic here.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
They always do.

🙄 Basher...

<<Il'll go with Surfer, more often than not. CM does stand a chance, but I don't think avoiding CM's lightining would be a big problem for Surfer. Most of the time, Surfer takes this.>>

depends - it's magical and sort of just 'appears'. ss likely wouldn't have any sense of it before it actually strikes him. i think cm could hit him with it, i'm just not sure it would be enough to put ss down.

and i'm not sure where i stand with the turning to stone argument, cc. this gets into one of the areas i HATE in these vs threads - if he's able to do that whenever he wants, why doesn't he? and don't say it's because all the fights would be boring. ss seems to NEVER be shown using ALL his power because ALL his fights would be too boring. ss's been in some VERY dire straights against opponents and never turned THEM to stone - or anything else. it would have come in handy v mad thor - -they wouldn't have had to go to thanos! and didn't he have some mental block or something about changing organic matter? then he overcame it and now he can? still, to be viable, i think it needs to be shown with more frequency and against people of cm's level. it's similar to me to the superman becoming intangible thing. i (personally) don't consider THAT viable either, for the same reason. but, that may be just me . . .