<<Thats true. Captain Marvel´s lighting comes from Shazam. It contains the fraction of the gods powers to the user. But its not a Zeus ligthing bolt.>>
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<<a summary of events from Adventures in the DC Universe, Issue 15:
Cap finds that the lightning bolt which transforms him acting erratically. As Billy Batson, he retains the power of Captain Marvel and as Captain Marvel, he is no more powerful than an ordinary mortal. The wizard SHAZAM deduces that the gods who are the source of Captain Marvel's power may be at the root of the problem. SHAZAM learns that Zeus has decided to test Billy by altering his magical lightning. Meanwhile, Billy, with the help of a young boy, raid a criminal's lair. Billy bluffs the criminals by entering their lair as Captain Marvel, despite the fact that because of Zeus's interference, he is powerless. This act of bravado wins the respect of Zeus, who agrees to restore Captain Marvel's powers to their original form. >>
so then why was zeus able to take the power away and shazam NOT able to give cm the power? the lightning is a manifestation of the 'power' of zeus, (like his strength is a manifestation of the strength of hercules, etc . . .) not a manifestation of the power of 'shazam.' if it were, we would call him SHASAM.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Jimmy Olsen isn't Captain Marvel. 😉 My info came from jrodslam. He said that any lightning would turn CM into Billy, and that's why he dodges it. Go figure. At any rate, Surfer synthesized the Odinforce. Why not Zeus's magic?The fact that it's magic would suggest that it has homing capabilities? 🤨 Thor has magical lightning too. I've never seen it seek out a target.
I dont remember saying that. Not ANY lightning would turn CM back into Billy. I was reffering to his own lightning. Thats why he dodges his own.
Although ive heard that he does have the ability to hurl lightning at a target like Zeus.
Sorry for the mixup. 😮
<<I dont remember saying that. Not ANY lightning would turn CM back into Billy. I was reffering to his own lightning. Thats why he dodges his own.
Although ive heard that he does have the ability to hurl lightning at a target like Zeus.
Sorry for the mixup.>>
thanks for clearing it up. it sounded sort of suspicious considering your other posts are usually pretty damned well informed.
🙂
SHAZAM is the name of the wizard. Billy's name is not Shazam. It's Captain Marvel. Shazam gets his lightning from Zeus. Billy gets his power from Shazam. It's third hand lightning, get it? 😉 No seriously, the lightning doesn't come from Zeus himself. It comes from Shazam's hands.
At any rate, Surfer was able to synthesize the Odinpower. Why not Shazam's lightning?
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Although ive heard that he does have the ability to hurl lightning at a target like Zeus.>>i'll have to try and verify that. i can't say i've ever seen it, but he's got a long history. and i've always wondered why (since he does share some power with zeus) that he COULDN'T do that. seems natural.
He's not throwing the lightning. He's summoning it from Shazam. I've never seen or heard of his lightning homing in on anyone. There's a BIG difference between Billy Batson and Shazam, much less, Billy Batson and Zeus.
okay, let's suppose (and i'm far from convinced of the fact) that we are right. so, zeus gives shazam lightning and this is the lightning cm uses. what difference does it make even IF you are correct?? it is still zeus's lightning! are you saying shazam . . . what? dilutes it or something? someone passes me a beer and i pass that beer to the next person, i don't change the beer. even supposing you're assumption is correct, i don't see how that changes anything.
and i'm not sure if he can throw the lightning. a little research may be in order.
Originally posted by leonidas
okay, let's suppose (and i'm far from convinced of the fact) that we are right. so, zeus gives shazam lightning and this is the lightning cm uses. what difference does it make even IF you are correct?? it is still zeus's lightning! are you saying shazam . . . what? dilutes it or something? someone passes me a beer and i pass that beer to the next person, i don't change the beer. even supposing you're assumption is correct, i don't see how that changes anything.and i'm not sure if he can throw the lightning. a little research may be in order.
It's still Zeus's lightning. Correct. Regardless of that fact, it doesn't have a homing property, and it has never displayed one. You merely speculated that it should, since it's magical. I disagreed. That's what we were debating.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Captain Marvel can hold his own against the Spectre he can definately get some wins over Norrin Radd.Spectre is way above Norrin Radd.
CM has been k.O by a punch before.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Captain Marvel can hold his own against the Spectre he can definately get some wins over Norrin Radd.Spectre is way above Norrin Radd.
I don't know much about D.C. but i always thought that Specter was far too inconsistent. ALthough even when he is at a low level, he should be moe powerful than Silver Surfer. Spectre was the only guy in the JLA and Avengers crossover who did anything in least bit impressive (apart form Chronos, and Grandamaster). So ihave a lot of respect for the uy even though this is my only example of him doing anythng impressive. 😄