Re: Heralds vs JLA
Originally posted by Darth_ErebusI think people are getting behind the name herald to much in this forums. Yes it makes you strong but not undefeatable.
HeraldsSilver Surfer
Morg
Terrax
Firelord
NovaJLA
Superman (not pre crisis)
Wonder Woman
Green Arrow
Green Lantern
Flashan alternate scenario is Pre Crisis Superman but add Tyrant to the Heralds.
There will be no intervention by Galactus.
It smuch like the Flash a well written t full potential Flash could probably take all the Heralds himself yes I said it. 😛 When discribing and thinking about some of his implied powers would place him in the low Skyfather range if you ask me. Though we know that he sn't and therefore you can't debate him as such same thing with Surfer.
People like Thor can go toe to toe with SS and Superman I would place him a tad stronger and faster than Thor. Same thing Wonder woman. These two could go H2H fist for fist with any of these heralds and I feel could take there shots. Gls do have some crazy feats and are powered by a source maybe not but comparable to the power Cosmic. A good GL would be able to fight SS maybe not win but give him a good run for his money. Flash I belive in total that flash is defently quicker and faster then all the heralds. Green arrow is defently cannon fodder for this match though.
Now this doesn't eqaute to a win for the JLA members I still think the heralds would take it it in a long drawn out fight but it would be a fight.
All I can say is not every herald is Silver Surfer. The JLA has a chance and a lot better then people are giving them credit for.
Originally posted by slade10
Alicia is blind for plot reasons. She's been blind for decades, and the entire point of her character is that she, as a scupltor, can "see" things in people without sight.Surfer has resurrected an entire planet, and a dead god. I don't think he'd have any problems curing a blind woman, if he had the deisre. In any event, it doesn't even make any sense for her to be cured "temporarily."
And no one underestimates the surfer. If anything, he's vastly underestimated because he's not a particularly popular comic character. Indeed, I'd say you're exhibt A for that proposition. "Surfer can only manipulate matter by touch" "Surfer's matter manipulation is temporary"
You're trying to pass yourself off as someone who has "read alot"? Please....
as for this fight, yes, the heralds win easily.
When has a green lantern willed a planet back together? Scans please. When GLs are rebuilding planets, they do it piece by piece -- terraforming the same way, for example, a mining company restores a stripped area.
scans of surfer doing these crappy things please, your stupid for chucking random possibly untrue surfer events which you cant back up then ask for evidence from the other person... you are stupid mate!
Originally posted by tdawg14I was using Flash to try and explain the idea that while we as outside unlookers can say SS does this or SS does that doesn't mean he has ever shown the ability. We place Surfer to high sometimes he is after all not to far ahead of Thor. Thor can give Surfer problems and good fights. Superman is argueably stronger and faster than Thor with decent long range attacks if SS uses his powers to the fullest he can weaken Supes because K-nite radiation. H2H though I would say Supes could take it to SS. Wonder Woman could as well.
newjak, you are crazy. Placing the Flash in the same category is the Surfer is totally overrating Flash. He is not close and would get completely smoked by SS. JLA loses hard.
But everyone wants to say well if well written most of the universe would tremble in his wake. Which could be true but SS has never shown this well written power.
It is the same way with the Flash when thinking about him. Think about Flash can steal the kentic energy from someone else Time Travel. Plus the idea of an "infinite mass punch" would put him into a lower skyfather level of power output maybe even higher. If well written Flash could probably take out everyone on that list within seconds yes seconds.
Is Flash written this way though no he isn't he could probably give SS a decent fight even pull out a win or two yes I believe Flash running full speed is faster than SS and has much faster reaction time. Though he probably wouldn't take the majority.
Flash is only faster than light in the speed force. Surfer's speed is limitless.
Surfer has shown nano-speed reflexes, and has moved his limbs at FTL speeds. That's something Wally can't do outside the S-force.
Flash would never beat Surfer. Ever.
Surfer is a lot stronger than you think. Superman would be doing little damage to Surfer, if he could land a hit on him.
Wonder Woman? Nu-uh.
Read Surfer's series and the Defenders.
Actually that's not true anymore. He's been moving at multiples of light for quite some time without phasing into the Speed Force. He overcame that. And became even more of a unstoppable speed demon...
But no he can't ever defeat Silver Surfer.
What the hell is Green Arrow gonna do? What in Oprah's name was the threadstarter thinking?
Threadstarter:
"Let's see. Silver Surfer vs. Superman. And....Green Arrow vs. Morg with the Waters of Life. Yep, makes perfect sense."
Superman: Green Arrow, help us!
Green Arrow: What the f*** do you want me to do?!! Shoot a boxing glove arrow at them?! ASS! What kinda f***ing retard thought it was a good idea for me to go up against cosmic heralds?!