Also, I think that people take the term 'hate speech' too far. Oh, noes, someone has a bumper sticker that says, "CHRISTIANS SUCK, GOD ISN'T REAL".
I'm so terribly offended by that.
Is saying that a certain group of people suck really hate speech? I don't know. I think there's a line that we draw for ourselves between freedom of expression and 'hate speech'. Some people have a line that is drawn too close to one extreme or another, it seems.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
You're kidding me. You read everything I had to say and that's all you could come up with? Could you at least elaborate so I don't think you're missing the point?
First of all, you can stop speaking down to me. There's little you've said thus far that I haven't been able to comprehend.
You wanna saythatif it's okayto say gaysrok, then it should be okay to say gayswrong. And I do believe I addressed that in my first post. It IS a right enjoyed by people in this country. A right I defended, despite my feelings on this matter.
So, you wanna say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. But people in this country aren't content to simply say "gayswrong". It's one thing to support an issue, publically, by saying that gaysrok. It's a totally different to say something like all fags will die of aids and burn in hell. That's disgusting. And you're saying that those extremes are justified. That simply isn't true.
Originally posted by botankus
There is a big difference between freedom of speech promoting a certain belief, lifestyle, and support and freedom of speech consisting of straight-out slander.While they are both indeed examples of freedom of speech, one shouldn't be at fault if someone is offended, while the other should be.
I think that was what I was trying to say. I'm not sure. I want to get my point across without sounding like an overly PC, tree hugging type, which I totally am not.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I totally agree with that Court.....ITs disgusting how society nowadays accepts the weirdest and most disgusting things.....stupid faggots and their rights......
Exactly. Whatkind of backlash wold there be if someone had a liscense plate that said "Kaffirs suck!" Well, one of two things would happen, 1) In this under-educated country, people would be wondering whatthe hell a Kaffir was. and 2) the guy would get dragged from his car and beaten to death. But, if I had a plate that said FAGSDIE, then what would happen? Not a damn thing. And if some well meaning, tired of the hypocrisy, gay guy beat the hell out of the guy at a stop light, then gays would be beaten in the streets, as a form of backlash.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Exactly. Whatkind of backlash wold there be if someone had a liscense plate that said "Kaffirs suck!" Well, one of two things would happen, 1) In this under-educated country, people would be wondering whatthe hell a Kaffir was. and 2) the guy would get dragged from his car and beaten to death. But, if I had a plate that said FAGSDIE, then what would happen? Not a damn thing. And if some well meaning, tired of the hypocrisy, gay guy beat the hell out of the guy at a stop light, then gays would be beaten in the streets, as a form of backlash.
What version of 'kaffir' do you mean? (I would assume the racial slur one, but one never knows...)
Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
If someones offended by a liscence plate or bumper sticker, then I guess they should move to another lane, it's not like the driver of the car is getting out with a bat and beating the shit of everyone.
The idea of having a bumper sticker or shit, etc. saying Gays rule or gays suck or whatever is another issue. That's freedom of expression.
A state-issued license plate is clearly promoting one kind of view or another is simply ridiculous. I don't even think they should have those license plates with universities and love your children mottos on them. It's a form of regulation and identification. If you absolutely HAVE to express yourself, go buy a damn shirt from Hot Topic.
Captain Fantastic... I apologize if I seemed offensive. I didn't mean to insinuate that you didn't understand anything I had to say. It was poor judgment and poor thinking.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
The idea of having a bumper sticker or shit, etc. saying Gays rule or gays suck or whatever is another issue. That's freedom of expression.A state-issued license plate is clearly promoting one kind of view or another is simply ridiculous. I don't even think they should have those license plates with universities and love your children mottos on them. It's a form of regulation and identification. If you absolutely HAVE to express yourself, go buy a damn shirt from Hot Topic.
It's not a state issued liscence plate, it's a liscence plate code, 'GAYRYTS' and 'GAYSROK' are personall descisions on your plate, not a special liscence plate made by the state.