Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
It's not a state issued liscence plate, it's a liscence plate code, 'GAYRYTS' and 'GAYSROK' are personall descisions on your plate, not a special liscence plate made by the state.
Personal decisions meaning they are what? The alphanumerical on the back that IDs the car? A little sign one top? Whatever it is, if it's on a license plate, it shouldn't be there. Period.
I read the entire thread and there's not a lot I can say that hasn't already been said, but I do have a genuine question. Why is a positive expression seen as Freedom of Speech and a negative expression seen as Hate Speech?
Surely both positive and negative should be simply seen as Freedom of expression, and isn't this the issue? That society should be allowed to express its views freely and comfortably, whether positive or negative, without being praised or condemned respectively?
I'm doing the Utopia thing again aren't I? 🙄
But, for the record, the above post wasn't my personal belief of how things should be, I was just wondering why there was such an issue with the number plate reading 'GAYSROK', if we live in a society where there are boundaries. These limitations are invoked for reasons so why should some be flexible whilst others aren't?
Originally posted by Syren
I read the entire thread and there's not a lot I can say that hasn't already been said, but I do have a genuine question. Why is a positive expression seen as Freedom of Speech and a negative expression seen as Hate Speech?Surely both positive and negative should be simply seen as Freedom of expression, and isn't this the issue? That society should be allowed to express its views freely and comfortably, whether positive or negative, without being praised or condemned respectively?
You're right. In a perfect society, I could drive down the street with a plate that read "KKKroks" and not get beaten. However, this isn't a perfect society where the opinions of other members are respected. In this society, it is a matter of saying what you have to say and dealing with the consequences of free speech, which often are not quiet nods of agreement or disagreement.
Now, the real problem in this situation isn't freedom of speech, but the consequences of that freedom. I can have a vanity plate that says "I am so gay!", but I'd better be willing to get my ass kicked for it.
As for the matter of a hearing to find out if the individual can have a personalized plate, then you have to consider the part of the country in which the hearing takes place. Utah is a less progressive part of the country. So, you can expect there to be some do-gooder looking for loop holes to prevent the plate from being issued.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You're right. In a perfect society, I could drive down the street with a plate that read "KKKroks" and not get beaten. However, this isn't a perfect society where the opinions of other members are respected. In this society, it is a matter of saying what you have to say and dealing with the consequences of free speech, which often are not quiet nods of agreement or disagreement.Now, the real problem in this situation isn't freedom of speech, but the consequences of that freedom. I can have a vanity plate that says "I am so gay!", but I'd better be willing to get my ass kicked for it.
As for the matter of a hearing to find out if the individual can have a personalized plate, then you have to consider the part of the country in which the hearing takes place. Utah is a less progressive part of the country. So, you can expect there to be some do-gooder looking for loop holes to prevent the plate from being issued.
I understand that ✅
It's unfortunate, I suppose, that we live in a society where acceptance of all cultures and beliefs is something that may never happen 🙁
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're of such utopian mind it's depressing.It's unfortunate that all beliefs won't be accepted?
I'll be standing at the next Al Qaida bomb site then, I hope you show up and say "Why can't we just accept what they are doing and what they believe?"
-AC
Don't be so f.ucking ridiculous... 🙄
Originally posted by Syren
It's unfortunate, I suppose, that we live in a society where acceptance of all cultures and beliefs is something that may never happen 🙁
^ Your quote.
To quote you again "Don't be so f.ucking ridiculous".
You said it's unfortunate that all beliefs might not be accepted. So that includes the beliefs of terrorists and all that malarky.
"...acceptance of all cultures and beliefs".
See? Right there.
-AC
Originally posted by Syren
I read the entire thread and there's not a lot I can say that hasn't already been said, but I do have a genuine question. Why is a positive expression seen as Freedom of Speech and a negative expression seen as Hate Speech?Surely both positive and negative should be simply seen as Freedom of expression, and isn't this the issue? That society should be allowed to express its views freely and comfortably, whether positive or negative, without being praised or condemned respectively?
im not sure what you mean.
people ARE free to express whatever ideal they please. the KKK is allowed to preach their ignorant hate publicly, so long as they dont incite violence, wacko branches of the southern baptist church are allowed to preach "god hate's f@gs" at a hate crime victim's funeral in front of his family and friends along with "thank god for 9-11", "god blew up the space shuttle" and "god hates america". their freedom of speech is upheld without question. but god forbid anyone openly supports gay people, and then that right is so easily denied.
What's sane and what isn't is a whole other thread, so I won't get into that in a "gaysrok" thread.
Happy, by definition, cannot exist without sad. So again, wouldn't work.
If something dies, you appreciate life more. If you break up with someone, you appreciate the good times. Happy/Sad, Life/Death. Can't have one without the other.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
im not sure what you mean.
people ARE free to express whatever ideal they please. the KKK is allowed to preach their ignorant hate publicly, so long as they dont incite violence, wacko branches of the southern baptist church are allowed to preach "god hate's f@gs" at a hate crime victim's funeral in front of his family and friends along with "thank god for 9-11", "god blew up the space shuttle" and "god hates america". their freedom of speech is upheld without question. but god forbid anyone openly supports gay people, and then that right is so easily denied.
What the hell do those people think they are doing with license plates that say 'GAYSROK'? I mean, HONESTLY...
Originally posted by FeceMan
That is sad. One behavior is completely inappropriate and, frankly, [i]closing the distance between 'bad' and 'evil', while the other is showing support.What the hell do those people think they are doing with license plates that say 'GAYSROK'? I mean, HONESTLY...
you totally lost me there