Well, we don't know for certain. But he obviously was powerful. His Force Storms could consume entire fleets and ships at a time. Of course Janus or someone will come along and dismiss that talent as a common trait amongst Sith Lords, I'm sure...
I doubt he could take Ragnos on or Kun. But he's still powerful enough to deserve some respect. Which he apparently never gets.
Glentract, it wasn't actually Han Solo who killed Palpatine. He slayed his physical form by shooting him in the back with a pistol. Before that, he managed to slip past Luke's defenses with his mastery of the Dark Side.
The Jedi Order tried to confront him, and despite being on his damn deathbed, took them all out - killed one and incapacitated the other. When Han shot him, it is very possible that he could've lived on - through his subconscious - like he did after ROTJ. He'd just have no clone body. However, Empatojayos Brand - a trained and powerful Jedi - intercepted Palpatine's spirit - and they both became one with the Force.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Yeah, and anything with the Vong in it just sucks immediately, do not pass go.
Oh boo hoo, nobody could kill Chewie!
They went there. For 21 books, and several comic references. Get over it. And get back on topic.
Force storm was badass. Did we see anybody else ever do anything with that kinda power? Naga Sadow and his sun trick was on par.
Still, I'd put Sideous up there as deserving to be counted amongst the great sith lords.
Originally posted by InsaneNoodlyGuy
Oh boo hoo, nobody could kill Chewie!They went there. For 21 books, and several comic references. Get over it. And get back on topic.
Force storm was badass. Did we see anybody else ever do anything with that kinda power? Naga Sadow and his sun trick was on par.
Still, I'd put Sideous up there as deserving to be counted amongst the great sith lords.
You do realize that a Supernova would engulf an area far greater than our solar system right? If you pack the area with a bunch of ships, that's a bit more than what that "force storm" that everyone talks about can do.
And since when is having one force ability (albeit a powerful one) make you among the greatest?
Originally posted by IllustriousYeah, that's right Nobody. But I do agree with your 21 book comment, so true.
You do realize that a Supernova would engulf an area far greater than our solar system right? If you pack the area with a bunch of ships, that's a bit more than what that "force storm" that everyone talks about can do.And since when is having one force ability (albeit a powerful one) make you among the greatest?
Oh, hey, it's spelled "Sidious" dude.
Why is it Exar Kun is always said to be more powerful than Sidious. I mean I highly doubt that he could beat Revan. Also in every Yoda vs. Revan they always come out in a near draw. Which I always thought it would be. Who has had approx. 900 years of training with both the force and a lightsaber. So if all this is true Yoda should at least be on par with Kun.
And we all know ROTS Sidious could defeat Yoda. So how would Yoda fair against DE Sidious? He would probably be anhilated by his force storm. So if Yoda would get defeated so easily then I doubt Revan and Kun would do much better.
Jeez. The Force Storm is not an ability you could use in a one-on-one battle. How could you sensibly think that? Neither is Naga and Kun's Star Destroying ability.
And you obviously don't know much about Kun or any of the Ancients if you think they could be stood still against by Yoda or Sidious. DE Sidious is good, but I wouldn't give him a chance against Ragnos, or Kun, or Revan, etc. We know not enough about the Ancients to make a verdict, but we know enough about Sidious.
And the Force Storm is not sheer power; it's a technique. Like breaking a cement block. You could take the strongest man in the world and tell him to break ten six-inch blocks of cement in one strike. He couldn't. But if you took someone who'd trained in such techniques for several years, yet was only a quarter of the "strong man's" strength, he'd pull it off.
Yoda is better than normal Sidious by a bit. DE Sidious is better than Yoda by a reasonable amount. But many say this only because of his Storm. Get over it. Naga and Kun could destroy planets, solar systems with their TECHNIQUE. No one here gives THEM enough credit.
DE Sidious is pretty good, but he's not in the league of the Ancients.
What? Yoda couldn't dream of beating Sidious? And Revan can barely beat Yoda? Yoda would out up a fight against either of them, sure. But so far, the only point the DE-supporters have come up with is his Force Storm. Big whup. Revan controlled a SUN. Emperor Revan has a thousand reasons, none of which I feel I need to type up. You HIGHLY underestimate Revan, and RIDICULOUSLY overestimate Sidious.
Don't even make me go there Genises, with all your crap about OMG SIDS HAS FORCES STROM OMG! I don't agree with you. That's my opinion. I don't come to this forum to swear at retard noobs like you. If the only reason why Sidious is as powerfu as the Ancients is freakin Force Storm, then you van't even think about calling me a fanboy.