How powerful is DE Sidious compared to other Ancient Sith

Started by Darth Windu3 pages

Okay. . . let's get things straight here;

- I DON'T think that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan. I DO however, want to see some proof that he is indeed this uberly powerful Force-user, other than the fact that he can conjure up a Force Storm. I'm not underestimating him, or denying him credit, but I don't want to make him the most powerful Sith based on one ability.

- In the DE series, the combined power of Luke and Leia wasn't all that powerful. It was definetely stronger than Yoda or the original Sids, but not all that mighty. A good Sith, like Revan, could pull that off.

- Since Revan seems to be the "Ancient" coming up here, and Genises said that Yoda would barely lose to Revan, meaning it would be like Yoda vs. Sids, that is saying that Sidious in ROTS is on par with Revan. I know that's probably not what you meant; just saying. Now, I don't think Revan could oown Yoda with despicable ease, but Yoda has characteristics other than his raw power that make him hard to beat in a fight. His small stature for example. However, if the battle escalated, or even began in a Force battle, I think Yoda would fall.

I'm not deducting that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan or someone. Just that when you compare him to the ANCIENT, ANCIENT Sith, like Naga, or Marka, it just doesn't seem that he's all powerful. My main point here is that one cannot judge power based on a single ability alone; is that unfair for me to say?

No, it makes perfect sense. People here tend to find a person, like Revan, NJo Luke, and now DE Sidious, and that person becomes their god despite all evidence contrary. Oddly enough, we don't have Exar Kun fanboys in here, which is odd because he could mess up most everyone.

Exar rules, but fanboys are annoying(or else i might be one)

Fanboys in general are annoying. I'm not a fanboy probably because I like most everyone for one reason or another.

Except for NJO Luke. He just sucks.

Lol.

That's what, your third sig in the past two days?

I'm gonna make another one... I'm just not content until I will have mastered the art of sig making.

Originally posted by Darth Windu
Okay. . . let's get things straight here;

- I DON'T think that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan. I DO however, want to see some proof that he is indeed this uberly powerful Force-user, other than the fact that he can conjure up a Force Storm. I'm not underestimating him, or denying him credit, but I don't want to make him the most powerful Sith based on one ability.

- In the DE series, the combined power of Luke and Leia wasn't all that powerful. It was definetely stronger than Yoda or the original Sids, but not all that mighty. A good Sith, like Revan, could pull that off.

- Since Revan seems to be the "Ancient" coming up here, and Genises said that Yoda would barely lose to Revan, meaning it would be like Yoda vs. Sids, that is saying that Sidious in ROTS is on par with Revan. I know that's probably not what you meant; just saying. Now, I don't think Revan could oown Yoda with despicable ease, but Yoda has characteristics other than his raw power that make him hard to beat in a fight. His small stature for example. However, if the battle escalated, or even began in a Force battle, I think Yoda would fall.

I'm not deducting that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan or someone. Just that when you compare him to the ANCIENT, ANCIENT Sith, like Naga, or Marka, it just doesn't seem that he's all powerful. My main point here is that one cannot judge power based on a single ability alone; is that unfair for me to say?

You are also forgetting that all of DE Sidious's other powers most likely increased in power. I do think you are being a little bit unfair to him I mean he can create a "FORCE" Storm! And by no means did I ever try and make it sound like ROTS Sidious is on par with Revan.

Originally posted by Darth Windu
Okay. . . let's get things straight here;

- I DON'T think that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan. I DO however, want to see some proof that he is indeed this uberly powerful Force-user, other than the fact that he can conjure up a Force Storm. I'm not underestimating him, or denying him credit, but I don't want to make him the most powerful Sith based on one ability.

- In the DE series, the combined power of Luke and Leia wasn't all that powerful. It was definetely stronger than Yoda or the original Sids, but not all that mighty. A good Sith, like Revan, could pull that off.

- Since Revan seems to be the "Ancient" coming up here, and Genises said that Yoda would barely lose to Revan, meaning it would be like Yoda vs. Sids, that is saying that Sidious in ROTS is on par with Revan. I know that's probably not what you meant; just saying. Now, I don't think Revan could oown Yoda with despicable ease, but Yoda has characteristics other than his raw power that make him hard to beat in a fight. His small stature for example. However, if the battle escalated, or even began in a Force battle, I think Yoda would fall.

I'm not deducting that DE Sidious would get owned by Revan or someone. Just that when you compare him to the ANCIENT, ANCIENT Sith, like Naga, or Marka, it just doesn't seem that he's all powerful. My main point here is that one cannot judge power based on a single ability alone; is that unfair for me to say?

It's spelled MARKO actually, with an O at the end.

Um. No. Its Marka Ragnos.

And Genises, I'm not trying to be unfair, as I said four times in the post. But there is nothing saying that his overall power increased. So far, the only thing you have said in his defense is his Force Storm. His power may have increased slightly, but not to the levels you say. And you say that with no other support. I just don't think he's on par with Kun or Revan or someone.

Marka Ragnos, not Marko.

And really, the difference would not happen between ROTJ and DE; the difference would be between ROTS and ROTJ, since Palpatine gets his hands on all the Jedi and Sith lore in the Jedi Temple.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Marka Ragnos, not Marko.

And really, the difference would not happen between ROTJ and DE; the difference would be between ROTS and ROTJ, since Palpatine gets his hands on all the Jedi and Sith lore in the Jedi Temple.

Excellent point. But then, his old ass kinda got weak in some respects... Notice how he walks in the OT. Also, wasn't there something in an Eu novel about his body being ravaged by the dark side powers he has?

Apparently, his lightning was too powerful for his aged mortal body, I think. That was in a Guide I got some nine years ago.

Well, next time don't wear bracelets when you use Sith lightning... duh.

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