Originally posted by Blinky
I just answered this question in the "what did you dislike about the PT" thread.I think GL did a horrible job showing how A. Skywalker turned to the Darkside. If you wanna know why do, go to the aforementioned thread 😛.
Now matter how good GL did it people would always complain...
Seriously...you think Anakin is gunna be a good boy after cutting the arm off of a Jedi master? He got enraged...Padme means a lot more to him than Mace...plus Mace wasn't exactly the nicest guy with Anakin.
No. The sudden transitions from cutting off MAce's hands to "What have I done?" to "I submit to your teachings"... All within a minute or two... That's all rather, bweeerkk... especially after Anakin imploring Mace a few minutes before to come along because he feels he's the only who can defeat a Sith master...
Originally posted by queeq
No. The sudden transitions from cutting off MAce's hands to "What have I done?" to "I submit to your teachings"... All within a minute or two... That's all rather, bweeerkk... especially after Anakin imploring Mace a few minutes before to come along because he feels he's the only who can defeat a Sith master...
Yeah...I suppose that submission thing was a bit early.
It would have been better if Palpatine showed Anakin a power point about how being a Sith is better.
Hahaha.
Originally posted by queeq
No. The sudden transitions from cutting off MAce's hands to "What have I done?" to "I submit to your teachings"... All within a minute or two... That's all rather, bweeerkk... especially after Anakin imploring Mace a few minutes before to come along because he feels he's the only who can defeat a Sith master...
Well, Mace destroyed the last shred of faith Anakin had left in the Jedi by telling him to stay put. From that point, Anakin was going to help Palpatine no matter what Mace was going to do. The whole "What have I done" bit was basically Anakin's way of saying "I can't believe I did that".
Technically, I see what you are saying. Emotionally all those scenes just don't work. It's highly unbelievable.
Besides, Anakin wasn't going to "help" Palpatine, I think he went in to either save the Jedi or at least keep Palpy alive. The unclarity about what exactly is going on in Anakin's mind kinda proves the point that motivations and emotions are extremely muddled and messy in these scenes. ergo, it makes them not very well done. It's all rather puzzling.
Originally posted by queeq
Technically, I see what you are saying. Emotionally all those scenes just don't woryy. It's highly unbelievable.Besides, Anakin wasn't going to "help" Palpatine, I think he went in to either save the Jedi or at least keep Palpy alive. The unclarity about what exactly is going on in Anakin's mind kinda proves the point that motivations and emotions are extremely muddled and messy in these scenes. ergo, it makes them not very well done. It's all rather puzzling.
The PT is pretty complex politically and emotionally compared to the older films. I had to get used to that as well.
It has nothing to do with complexity. It has to do with bad storytelling. Motives are unclear yet outcomes are supposed to have severe consequences even though we don't get why . Take the whol Naboo conflict for instance. What the heck was thata bout to make such a fuss?
Same with Anakin... it's unclear what the heck his problem is. He's a jerk in AOTC so why the surprise he turns? We don't understand his motives very well and yet we're not surprised by his actions. It just makes him all the more unsympathetic because we're inclined to be indifferent to him. That is the filmmaker's fault, he forgot to take us along on Anakin's journey.
Originally posted by queeq
It has nothing to do with complexity. It has to do with bad storytelling. Motives are unclear yet outcomes are supposed to have severe consequences even though we don't get why . Take the whol Naboo conflict for instance. What the heck was thata bout to make such a fuss?
Same with Anakin... it's unclear what the heck his problem is. He's a jerk in AOTC so why the surprise he turns? We don't understand his motives very well and yet we're not surprised by his actions. It just makes him all the more unsympathetic because we're inclined to be indifferent to him. That is the filmmaker's fault, he forgot to take us along on Anakin's journey.
Palpatine sort of masterminded the Naboo conflict to become chancellor. Otherwise, to each his own. The OT is black and white where as the PT isn't.
Originally posted by queeq
The PT is blurry indeed, in many ways.But seriously, how exactly does Padme signing a treaty with the TF lead to domination of the universe??? What exactly WAS the treaty and where would it lead if the Jedi had not intervened? It's a strange puzzle... and complete bizarre for a kiddie movie.
Meh. It is a lot to take in. Ask George Lucas. And then watch how fast he runs away, lol just kidding.