Originally posted by queeq
I think we diffre greatly on that assessment.
Sometimes great minds think different.
Movies are movies, some people like them, some people do not like them. Some are in between and some don't care.
Some could be better while others could be worse.
But one thing remains true.
Star Wars is awesome!
Originally posted by queeq
The seduction should have spannend two movies.
It did sort of. Anakin and Palpatine became pretty close in Episode II.
Originally posted by queeq
Well, the PT has many repetitions of the OT (in events like fights, arms being cut off, and in lines). Now the Clone Wars are here and we see even more repetitions. So it kinda loses its flavour.
Well, thats becuase these are all Star Wars movies, the "bad feeling about this" and the arms chopping off is a Star Wars thing. Every OT movie had it, so why not the PT? They are all Star Wars. These things among many, many others are in what is called the Star Wars plot formula.
http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/formula.html
Don't let the url scare you, this is a legitimate and a very interesting list.
Originally posted by queeq
Prolly, but I still think I can make a good case in pointing out the lack of imagination being shown in comparison to the OT.Do you think you can make a good case apart from saying you disagree and have a different opinion?
Yes. First you need to watch the PT, watch it with yourself or with a loved one or your children. You need to clear your mind of all of the anti-PT garbage and totally tune in to the brilliant piece of art in front of you on your display.
There is really too much for me to explain, you either like a movie or you don't. People interpret works of art different than others and some just don't "get it."
Every SW film is the same in a number of ways. They mainly seem to focus on internal conflicts within pivotal characters. Luke's struggle to become a Jedi successfully, and his decisions on his interactions with his father. And Anakin perhaps has the deepest and most disturbing internal conflicts revolving around his rare power and his struggle with the Dark Side. Another obvious observation in Star Wars is the conflicts between opposing forces are very dynamic because usually always it seems one force has the upper hand, and the other must use sophisticated means of defeating the enemy. The Sith in the PT are a very small group, they obviously can't defeat the Jedi and the Republic exclusively by force so they have to rely on cunning intelligence and political manipulation of other forces. At one point the Sith technically controlled both opposing factions. (Clone Wars)
In the OT you have a very similar situation, the Rebels are a little and seemingly weak force compared to the Galactic Empire, the Sith rule the galaxy with an iron fist, and the Jedi are basically almost non-existent. Both trilogies almost have opposite settings, but they are directly related to each other. The Rebels are the weaker faction, thus they must rely on faith in the Force, intelligence and some force to restore a proper foundation in the Galaxy.
Both trilogies are equally as complex if you look at them. Look at the overall plots, look at the stories, the messages, rises, falls, and redemption. Star Wars is basically classic and popular literature re-told under George Lucas' vision in a space fantasy universe with amazing characters and complex wars with evil and good everywhere, and both always struggling for control.
Prequel Trilogy, Original Trilogy, you can argue all you want, you can make fun of the effects of the OT, or call them boring. You can complain all you want about Jar Jar Binks and midichloreans in the PT. None of this really matters though becuase they are ultimately not going to change. (Hard to say with George but that isn't the point.) Star Wars is Star Wars and nothing will change. If you have an idea of what you think should of happened in your own made up version of Star Wars get it out of your head everybody becuase it isn't what happened. We have the nine I mean six DVDs and it is all there for you to enjoy. They will be around forever and loved by people of all ages.
Star Wars will always be the story of the Rise and Fall of Anakin Skywalker. Don't look at the little things that maybe you don't think were done the best, acting, visual effects, whatever that may be. I have my opnions on what could have been better in both trilogies but I don't dislike either one becuase of that. I look at the story, and the emotional feelings I get from them. The death of Qui-Gon in The Phantom Menace, the Jedi slaughter in Attack of the Clone, and the tearful outcome of Obi-Wan's and Anakin's fate shaping duel all emotionally impacted me as they did many, many others.
They are all movies, they all make up Star Wars.
Dude, I watched them all when they came out, all six of them. And they are not complex movies, they are quite simple. But what the PT does is make them pretend they are complex and tehrefore missing the point that it's fairly simple. The PT hides the basic emotions and underlying motives too much. Instead it gives us over the top emotion (love scenes with Padme, "Then you are my enemy!" etc.) or a total lack of it (like most of TPM). It's just not in tune with the story it's trying to tell.
I'll want to see a lot more graduation taking place over the Clone Wars series at least in regards to his darkside transition.
It still, despite the reasoning and greek tragedy stuff, seemed too soon.
This is why I'd have had Lucas start Episode as AOTCish time... With Anakin already being a Jedi, giving more room for the circumstances truely unfold over the three movies..