Originally posted by Bardock42
Well yes....that is not the Idea of communism you seem to support though.......And it depends if the one office worrker is better than the other.....its not aboot doing a job but how much you are worth to someone else....
How much you are worth?
It's people like you who make the concept of a compassionate human race in impossibility.
Originally posted by Syren
How much you are worth?It's people like you who make the concept of a compassionate human race in impossibility.
It's humans in general that make that nearly impossible. It's our will to advance that make it nearly impossible.
It's humans in general, not any specific group, but human nature.
Either way, compassion is already here if you look, it's just not worldwide and with everyone. If it's total equality you want, I suggest waking up.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's humans in general that make that nearly impossible. It's our will to advance that make it nearly impossible.It's humans in general, not any specific group, but human nature.
Either way, compassion is already here if you look, it's just not worldwide and with everyone. If it's total equality you want, I suggest waking up.
-AC
Well, that's exactly why I said it'd never work. I think it's a great idea but human nature will never allow it to work. Everyone wants to be better than others.
Originally posted by Syren
How much you are worth?It's people like you who make the concept of a compassionate human race in impossibility.
No no actually its the Human Nature that makes a compassionate Human Race immpossibel...that is a different thread though....
What I meant with worth is if one worker makes twenty bags a day and another only ten the first worker is worth double to the Owner of the Factory.....its quite simple the Concept of Capitalism....
Originally posted by Lana
Okay, so you know what, despite the fact that 99% of the time I'm a pessimistic realist, I still am a bit of an optimist about things 😛
well I am too sometimes.....for example I believe and hobe that it will all turn out good for Humans in the long riun...but being realistic has nothing to don with Pessimism...it might seem that way cause we nowadays belief in the not-existin "good" in people....
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's humans in general that make that nearly impossible. It's our will to advance that make it nearly impossible.It's humans in general, not any specific group, but human nature.
Either way, compassion is already here if you look, it's just not worldwide and with everyone. If it's total equality you want, I suggest waking up.
-AC
I would never be so warped as to expect a Utopia, by anyone's standards... but it would be nice 😬
Originally posted by Syren
I would never be so warped as to expect a Utopia, by anyone's standards... but it would be nice 😬
Well but the Communiosm of Marx is no Utopia....its actually a Dystopia....I mean in the future a similar thing as communism might become handy but not now...not in our world.....
Syren, with all due respect, no it wouldn't be nice. It'd be a nightmare.
Everyone exactly equal? Nothing to strive for? No way to differentiate or feel independantly better?
Hell on Earth. Utopia is the biggest "Looks good on paper" theory of all time. Because if it ever happened, the world would be in a worse position than it is now.
-AC
Originally posted by Fire
Communism should be viewed in its time. The 19th century it made a hell of a lot of sense back then. True Marx's ideas and ideology was and well still is radical and extreme but at the core, were at the time some very good ideas.
It didn't either...its was extreme back then and it is still...Social Ideas back then yes....but not communism.....
Originally posted by Fire
Socialism evolved from Communism it made a hell of a lot sense back then. What Marx said about the church still holds the most truth from everything I have ever read and studied about that period.
I didnt say Socialism was good either....I said some Social Ideas were good....
As for Marx Religion Critique....yes I guess he's ok there...doesn't make his Communism any better though-....
Maybe...but seeing it on a scale from extreme to less extreme it's
Communism.-----Socialism------Social Ideas ----- some Social Ideas (That's aboot the right amoun) ----Freedom------
Not that I know of........
Yes...well ....I agree half way...at least you didn't take the Spartacus Uprising cause that would be just plain wrong (communists in germany did it anyways though)