Making a Statement

AC> You obviously live in a country where doctor’s can’t get special benefits and money from pharmaceutical companies if they prescribe THEIR drugs – which may be more expensive that others that work just as well.
We’ve had cases with that here in DK…

”In politics, someone in it for the money will make decisions for the money. Those decisions will affect people unlike the doctors ideals or choices.”

So, we can agree that there are areas where it’s not beneficial that money is the driving force behind what career people chooses?

Bardock>” How much are you willing to pay a doctor that safes your life?
How much are you willing to pay the guy that takes your trash?”

But why should it amount to money only? Are both not equally IMPORTANT to make a society work?
(That statement about homeless people was not made by me.)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well not many people starving...but really I don*t care in the long run it is better for all of humankind...plus I don*t starve...good for me......

Nonetheless, when people die of malnutrition, and other preventable diseases for the sole reason of lack of money, then the country is not a good one.

Originally posted by The Omega

But why should it amount to money only? Are both not equally IMPORTANT to make a society work?

EXACTLY!!!

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock>” How much are you willing to pay a doctor that safes your life?
How much are you willing to pay the guy that takes your trash?”

But why should it amount to money only? Are both not equally IMPORTANT to make a society work?
(That statement about homeless people was not made by me.)

Its not a matter aboot importance...although think aboot this the Doctor can take the trash out...but can the Trash out taker doctor (this is a verb)?

And even if they are equally important...they are not equally important to people...and not the state has to say what is important or not but the people.....

Even Sport Stars...watching them play Basketball for example is worth a lot of money to many people....so they deserve the money.....Capitalism is great

Sorry for that, I just copied your quote and enteres APs statement...I changes it

Originally posted by bilb
EXACTLY!!!

It's not the amouibnt of money...its the importance to people (considering their importance to other people again)

Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
Nonetheless, when people die of malnutrition, and other preventable diseases for the sole reason of lack of money, then the country is not a good one.

All right then...I disagree....but if thats all yoi care for Communism is the right system for you...that means for 50 years until all people die a horrible death cause nothing is working anymore....

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not the amouibnt of money...its the importance to people (considering their importance to other people again)

All right then...I disagree....but if thats all yoi care for Communism is the right system for you...that means for 50 years until all people die a horrible death cause nothing is working anymore....

Ok then, I propose a quasi-communistic ideal, work or your fired from your job and your source of money is cut off until you do work. I'll respond later, I've gotta go.

Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
Ok then, I propose a quasi-communistic ideal, work or your fired from your job and your source of money is cut off until you do work. I'll respond later, I've gotta go.

So will I...I agree though we need a compromise....

Originally posted by The Omega
So, we can agree that there are areas where it’s not beneficial that money is the driving force behind what career people chooses?

Well....of course.

I'm not too sure where this came from, or went. Nor the purpose of it.

Haha.

-AC

Money is not always the driving force for career choice🙂

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is disgusting......

Only to you... 😛

Support communism and our party mascot (The muskrat) will get you totaly wasted.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Money is not always the driving force for career choice🙂

Exactly, look at teachers for example.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So will I...I agree though we need a compromise....

What is there to comprimise? If you are unable to maintain a stable job after given so many chances to then I guess you're a dumbass.

Originally posted by pr1983
Only to you... 😛

It should be to everyone though 😛

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Money is not always the driving force for career choice🙂

Of course n ot, but it is often, and if not its something equally important to the person.

Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
What is there to comprimise? If you are unable to maintain a stable job after given so many chances to then I guess you're a dumbass.

We need the Capitalistic System to keep evolving....to advance further mentally as much as powerwise.....
But we ourselves decided when we created society that it should be created to save people from dying, so we think that we have the duty to prevent people from starving or other deaths (Of course its not really a duty....but anways we should stick to it...out of a decision we should make towards it) therefore we should have a small amount of social security...but that's it....

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock>” How much are you willing to pay ..................... ...............takes your trash?”

They had a special on Sundance this weekend called "Dirty Work." It pofiled a bull inseminator, a septic tank repairman, and an embalmer - three jobs 99% of the upper class wouldn't touch with a $200,000-foot pole. Those guys were hardcore.

Originally posted by silver_tears
Why do people go to such lengths to make a "statement"?

Like even around here, do people actually believe in communism, peta, etc etc, or are they just trying to be cool by sporting sigs and avvy's supporting it??

What statement are you making?
That you're simply a twit?!?! disgust

It is good sometimes to share your thoughts and views on stuff that yuo are for or againt.JMelectricchair

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People have sigs and avvys of a very sexual nature despite having limited sexual experience. -AC

Bardock> “Its not a matter aboot importance...although think aboot this the Doctor can take the trash out...but can the Trash out taker doctor (this is a verb)?”

I understand what you mean – one had an education, the other did not. But should substitution matter? Both people do important jobs in society. Maybe the renovator really wanted to be a doctor, but sorry, tough – his parents were poor.

“And even if they are equally important...they are not equally important to people...and not the state has to say what is important or not but the people.....”

To people? But why is that – think about it.

“Even Sport Stars...watching them play Basketball for example is worth a lot of money to many people....so they deserve the money.....Capitalism is great”

I don’t agree with you. Sure, we should be entertained, we’ve entertained ourselves since old storytellers sat by the fire in caves and relayed tales of heroes and demons. But paying someone who runs after a ball the same salary that would upgrade the books of an entire school is just – ludicrous.
Capitalistic economy is to blame for a child dying every 6 seconds. I do not consider that to be great.

About a compromise: How about this - the state gives all of us a minimum amount of money each month. Not starvation welfare, but enough to live decently. Those who wish Ferraris, giant houses and diamonds can work and pay for the stuff they want?
The rest can do lesser chores, study to better the average knowledge of society? Hm?

No its not aboot education at all......I don't care for education......if someone uneducated can take a bullet out of my lung better than a surgeon I would go right to them.....I ust want the Bullet out of there...fast....and I am willing to pay for it....lots....more than for someone to take my trash out....cause I conwsider a smelly house less important than my life in that second (on the whole this might seem stupid but still I like to live)....

Well case the peopole have the money...they can decide whom they spend it on...if you are willing to spend 20000 a year for someone that takes ypur trash out...great...then do....but others just might not.......

Aboopt the entertaining....yes maybe you dot agree...maybe I don't agree either...but as long as 4 0000 people are willing to pay ten bucks to see it and another 5 000 000 people are willing to watch it on TV they deserve the money...cause they are worth the money.....I don't consider it important myself but it adds up.....and that's why capitalism is great (oh and its not capitalism that makes children die (not that I'd care) its the lack of capitalistic knowledge and ability.....)

Your compromise..yes I had a similar compromise in mind when I said:

We need the Capitalistic System to keep evolving....to advance further mentally as much as powerwise.....
But we ourselves decided when we created society that it should be created to save people from dying, so we think that we have the duty to prevent people from starving or other deaths (Of course its not really a duty....but anways we should stick to it...out of a decision we should make towards it) therefore we should have a small amount of social security...but that's it....

But there are a few problems with yours...first of all where should the money come from.....we need people to work in order to earn money.....of course you can hope that enough people want ferraris and so on...but what if not? Then we have a problem.....then I don't think people "deserve" money from the state...no one deserves money kust for being alive (ok maybe some but then they are important to some or many). People should want to work and they should work....of course they shouldn'T die so they get a minimum of money if they can't work themselves...but a minimum so that someone who cleans a toilet has more money than them......they can then study or whatever if they want (although I believe there are only few people who are able to achieve a level of knowledge that is important to society (Scientists))

Originally posted by Bardock42
But there are a few problems with yours...first of all where should the money come from.....we need people to work in order to earn money.....of course you can hope that enough people want ferraris and so on...but what if not? Then we have a problem.....then I don't think people "deserve" money from the state...no one deserves money kust for being alive (ok maybe some but then they are important to some or many). People should want to work and they should work....of course they shouldn'T die so they get a minimum of money if they can't work themselves...but a minimum so that someone who cleans a toilet has more money than them......they can then study or whatever if they want (although I believe there are only few people who are able to achieve a level of knowledge that is important to society (Scientists))

Agreed, that is a flaw in communism, no one works.