Star Trek versus Star Wars: The Debate is Opened

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh, well, Roddenberry was keewn on realism. Rumour has it he only added sound in space under pressure.

He always felt betrayed by his writers. He actually tried to disown Star Trek II. And that was a good film as well; just goes to show...

Very true apart from First Contact, i think it was the best film. Roddenberry was full of good ideas but unfortunately he had did a great deal of good especially for human rights, and in raising the profile and reasons for space exploration at the time of the cold war when a great deal of people thought it was only about beating the Russians. As a futurist he also had some good ideas. Did you know he was a war hero?

Originally posted by jaden101
startrek has given us the borg, Q, the remans, phasers, transporters, cool little badge communicators, the dysons sphere, the crystaline entity, the weird black stuff that killed tasha yar, holodecks, data dressed up as sherlock holmes, evil god like creatures that can destroy entire species with a single thought, spock, a recognised language (klingon), and tons and tons of other stuff

starwars gave us lightsabres..the jedi and the sith....

starwars still wins

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Originally posted by bilb
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(pretend Im replying to jaden coz I cant find his quote) 😛

Out of all that stuff....I only understood lightsabers, jedi and sith...

"crystaline entity" "dysons sphere" - 🤨

"data dressed up as sherlock holmes" - I can sleep at night knowing Obi Wan will never dress like this...

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Star Trek verses Star Wars? I vote Star Wars but you have to keep in mind that this is a matter of taste so there's no real winner......unless we are talking in militaristic standards.
In that case I would say put Obi-Wan and Anakin or Palps and Vader on ANY Trekkie ship and see what happens.
Even a borg cube. Love to see them adapt to a lightsaber hacking their limbs off.

Or you could just have the Imperial fleet destroy everything...

Star Wars has made more money. Star Wars wins.

Your freaken insane if you think star trek is better. End of discussion.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Trek is trying to ground itself in reality. philosophies.

I think you hit the nail on the head with that statement.

Star treck is trying to be what the writers think the future will look like. Star wars is SCI FI at its best, huge variety of aliens, weapons, characters with different backgrounds, ships, planets and the "chosen one" thing,

"data dressed up as sherlock holmes" - I can sleep at night knowing Obi Wan will never dress like this...

I know that there's some more neutral sources, from where I said that Warp 9.2 was equal to Solo's hpyerdrive. Attack of the Clones just contradicted the ''cross the galaxy within hours'' because Amidala's yacht got from Tatooine to Geonosis (3,26 light-years) in 15 hours. Star Wars galaxy is about 12,000 light-years diameter, with normal hyperdrives, it would take a year and a bit, according to this site: http://st-v-sw.net. which is definitively more neutral than stardestroyer.net. Because it says the phaser-1s and 2s can destroy AT-STs single-handedly.

I find Star Wars a million times better.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
I know that there's some more neutral sources, from where I said that Warp 9.2 was equal to Solo's hpyerdrive. Attack of the Clones just contradicted the ''cross the galaxy within hours'' because Amidala's yacht got from Tatooine to Geonosis (3,26 light-years) in 15 hours. Star Wars galaxy is about 12,000 light-years diameter, with normal hyperdrives, it would take a year and a bit, according to this site: http://st-v-sw.net. which is definitively more neutral than stardestroyer.net. Because it says the phaser-1s and 2s can destroy AT-STs single-handedly.

Wow...

Some people out there are nerds.

Star Trek was ruined for me by having an episode devoted to small round cute hairy creatures. Star Wars has never had anything like that to blacken its record. Shit, Wait a minute....

The best moments of Star Wars are when Luke Skywalker and Vader clash. Skywalker is constantly on the defensive as Vader, the man who killed his father, toys with him. After a gruelling and emotional battle, Luke angers Vader and Vader takes off Lukes hand. Vader then reveals, in possibly the most FAMOUS LINE OF ALL CINEMA HISTORY that he is his father. The shock is dramatic and tragic, and Luke faces a decision to either join his father, or fall to his doom. He gives up all hope and falls. It's the best scene ever made.

The best episodes of Star Trek are when one of the crew catches a cold.

Enough said.

Originally posted by amity75
Star Trek was ruined for me by having an episode devoted to small round cute hairy creatures. Star Wars has never had anything like that to blacken its record. Shit, Wait a minute....

As much as I love Star Trek, I'll always have loved SW that bit more...
But I'll take Tribbles over Ewoks any old day of the week....

Originally posted by amity75
Star Trek was ruined for me by having an episode devoted to small round cute hairy creatures. Star Wars has never had anything like that to blacken its record. Shit, Wait a minute....

:homer: thats the ironic thing about irony😂

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
I know that there's some more neutral sources, from where I said that Warp 9.2 was equal to Solo's hpyerdrive. Attack of the Clones just contradicted the ''cross the galaxy within hours'' because Amidala's yacht got from Tatooine to Geonosis (3,26 light-years) in 15 hours. Star Wars galaxy is about 12,000 light-years diameter, with normal hyperdrives, it would take a year and a bit, according to this site: http://st-v-sw.net. which is definitively more neutral than stardestroyer.net. Because it says the phaser-1s and 2s can destroy AT-STs single-handedly.

a memory wipe would be the best solution if you wanna get laid

ok, plz dont take that personally! 😆

I guess it is also about design, thematically, generically etc. Star Wars is a movie series. A movie has to appeal to everyone, thus alot is compressed into a couple of hours, so there is variety and a great deal of emotion, action etc all in a very potent, intense short period. That's Star Wars, although it ended up at 6 movies, they are still moves with the pros and cons of all things film.

On the over hand a TV series handles differently. They can be alot more complex, and they have to be more drawn out, and generally every episode is tied together. This naturally leads to quieter moments, action filled moments, plot developing moments and so on.

So what do I think? Star Wars is possibly the best Sci Fi out there (or up there with the best) in terms of film. But I seriously doubt it would make a good TV series, and to be honest the books are pretty bad, because it has the features that make great cinema, but lacks that which would make it consistently good television.

Star Trek is some of the best Sci Fi in terms of TV (yes it had movies, but they were still in the TV series universe and translated reasonably well.) However it couldn't really be translated well into a stand alone movie. To really appreciate it one has to had the years of Television viewing (I remember seeing First Contact in the cinema, and seeing alot of people with no "Trek history" failing to enjoy it because they didn't know of the subplots and ties to the series, especially Picard's character in relation to the Borg.) Oh, ands it's pretty down with the whole hard Sci Fi thing, where as Star Wars really lives up to it whole "Fantasy Fiction in a sci fi setting.

So really they are two very different things. In the end I quite like both (though most of the SW prequels were trash, as was ST Enterprise series.) In fact I possibly say for me Star Wars, but only just. And in the spirit of mad proclamations and claims, I think the Borg could take the Star Wars universe after a long, hard fight (at the time of the 4th movie anyway). Heheh...

Oh, and Star Trek has never really had anything as hideously bad as Gungans and Kid Anikan "Are you an Angel?" Skywalker, so that's some points there.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
As much as I love Star Trek, I'll always have loved SW that bit more...
But I'll take Tribbles over Ewoks any old day of the week....

Srtar Wars is the ultimate for me, but I gotta agree with ya there Sads..Ewoks SUCK!

Tribbles!! droolio 😱

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And in the spirit of mad proclamations and claims, I think the Borg could take the Star Wars universe after a long, hard fight (at the time of the 4th movie anyway). Heheh...

Read that nerd site someone posted. The site creater may be a nerd but he knows what he is talking about when it comes to borg vs. empire and brings up very good points why the borg would lose.