Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Yes, I dont believe einstein said time and space were the same thing.
No, and I'm not saying that they are the same thing. To get to the real aspect of the word, you need to look at dimensions as not being independent. The curvature of Space-Time is what makes a planet move around a star. This is way I say that time is space, this is a simplification; an attempt to get someone to understand that time is not what we think it is. Time is nothing by it’s self, no dimension exists by it’s self. Dimensions are not real, they are part of a model, and models are not real.
Time is the force that has the push....pushes us through the many dimensions we call space...without that force things would be like a frozen universe...a still slide on a movie screen.....Each slide on the screen is a time jump from one spot in your reality to the next..ie...quantum jumps.....Depending on which movie is playing will be your consciousness/mind or self as you know it...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, and I'm not saying that they are the same thing. To get to the real aspect of the word, you need to look at dimensions as not being independent. The curvature of Space-Time is what makes a planet move around a star. This is way I say that time is space, this is a simplification; an attempt to get someone to understand that time is not what we think it is. Time is nothing by it’s self, no dimension exists by it’s self. Dimensions are not real, they are part of a model, and models are not real.
Yes I know, I misunderstood you before; you are correct, according to einstein anyway. You have to remember relativity is just a theory, a theory thats held up to much scientific testing and may someday become law, but still a theory. I highly respect einstein and agree with him on many things but I respectfully disagree with him and you on time, I happen to have the opinion that time is not the 4th dimension intertwined with space but that it is something made up by humans to measure the natural interaction of things.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Yes I know, I misunderstood you before; you are correct, according to einstein anyway. You have to remember relativity is just a theory, a theory thats held up to much scientific testing and may someday become law, but still a theory. I highly respect einstein and agree with him on many things but I respectfully disagree with him and you on time, I happen to have the opinion that time is not the 4th dimension intertwined with space but that it is something made up by humans to measure the natural interaction of things.
Well, I respect your opinion, and share it to a degree. I think there are two types of time. One of them is what you are talking about, and the other one is what I'm talking about. I don't know how to make it clear, but if I come up with something I'll tell you.
i agree with gv. i believe the 4th dimension is movement. you may say movement and time are the same but do not believe so. if something passes through the same point in space with the same 3 dimensions as before that means that it would be different because it is a new time but in fact if you look at it it is exactly the same as the last time it passed through that point in space. but what is measurable is if that object has moved from that exact point in space. the main reason einstien couldnt get past the theory of quantum physics is because he saw time as the next dimension...
has anyone seen donnie darko? good movie especially after a beezer...
back to what i was saying. my personal point of view of time is that there was big bang, everything goes outward, gravity says hey get back here, everything condenses to the point of ani-physics (where everything that is physics is backwards, gravity, light, everything is backwards for that split moment that is shorter than the opposity of infinity) and boom new big bang. a process that goes on and on making time irrevalent. prog from the movie kapak talks about it near the end if youve seen it, but ive been thinking about this theory before i even saw the movie.
sorry i typed so much, by the way does anyone know where i can get a burger king suit for cheap? that guy is freaky
Re: What Is Time?
Originally posted by Storm
Attempting to understand the nature of time has always been a prime occupation for philosophers. There are widely divergent views about its meaning, hence it is difficult to provide an uncontroversial and clear definition of the nature of time.What then is time? If no one asks me, I know what it is. If I wish to explain it to him who asks, I do not know.
Augustine of HippoWhat is time?
Time has no nature, as it is empty. Reality is fleeting non-substantial movement. Nothing for that matter has a nature, or essence, because everything is empty. Think of this: What is it that makes an automobile what it is? Whan does it cease to be an automobile? When you take of the wheels? An atom is composed of sub-atomic particles, those sub-atomic particles are in turn composed of other particles, etc., etc., ad infin...it just carries on. You'll never find the base essence of anything, so everything is made up of nothing...or at least, everything is appearance, not substance, vibration, not fixed or solid.
It's difficult to explain in words, but we have to accept that ultimate reality is not fully comprehensible in terms of language, truth and logic - it is not illogic, irrational, but non-rational, non-logical, or rather, superior than the mere logical dimension - beyond truth...