Originally posted by dadudemon
That would not only be acceptable to me (but not my first choice in the plot) but it would be neat if they made a video game out of it that had a similar progression plot to KOTOR.
That would be pretty damn good. You're a recently dead dude who becomes a Soul Reaper and unnervingly quickly becomes incredibly powerful. Then it turns out that you were Aizen all along! >:3
It could even be an RPG like Kotor. Though given that Zanpakuto only have a single ability it may be hard to do power progression. But i suppose they could do Kido and Swordskills and then just have you choose an ability type at the start.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That would be pretty damn good. You're a recently dead dude who becomes a Soul Reaper and unnervingly quickly becomes incredibly powerful. Then it turns out that you were Aizen all along! >:3
😆 😆 😆
Kubo style would have you working towards freeing Aizen, the whole time..and it was all part of Aizen's plan.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It could even be an RPG like Kotor. Though given that Zanpakuto only have a single ability it may be hard to do power progression. But i suppose they could do Kido and Swordskills and then just have you choose an ability type at the start.
Yeah, Kido, swordskills, even "power" skills mixed with your sword such as the "focus" strike that can break any defense.
But, yeah, that was my idea: allow people to focus on sword skills, kido skills, or a combination of the above. As you progress, weaker enemies would just pass out as you approach them if you choose a berserker type (like Kenpachi or Ichigo) or you could be an ultra-efficient type that hardly wastes an drop of rieroyoku like Byakuya. Or you could be a combo type that can do all of the above like Gin.
You'd have missions...reporting latters...communication with real characters, and so forth.
So one strike from Tsukishima affects his targets and another returns them to normal. Something tells me that killing him won't remove the effects. What confuses me is Ginjo. Did he order Tsukishima to do all that and allow himself to get cut so his memory can be replaced with him being a good guy while Tsukishima is the main theat so that way he won't look suspicious to Ichigo and his friends when "helping" them and when the time came, Tsukishima does what he's instructed to do which is to revert Ginjo back to his original self and begin the final part of his plan to gain more power? Also, how is Ishida not affected? Is Tsukihima's Fullbring ineffective only to Quincies or something?
If that isn't blood or a shadow on Ichigo's eye that's seen at the end of the chapter, it's probably that black stuff that hints Hichigo assuming control. I hope that happens. Him returning and ripping everyone of those Xcution members a new A hole (and hopefully killing Moe in the process) would be sweet and those guys should be afraid. Dude almost made Byakuya crap himself. If that doesn't happen then I guess Kisuke and Gendo, that mystery reaper, or Ichigo's friends will be coming to the rescue.
Ginjo may have had that done to make his character absolutely believable. Ichigo is a smart character. Gin remarked how smart Ichigo was and said something like "scary." So it makes sense to make it literally impossible for Ginjo to reveal his intentions.
Also, Ishida was never struck by Tsukihima. He was struck by Ginjo. That was explained this last chapter.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ginjo may have had that done to make his character absolutely believable. Ichigo is a smart character. Gin remarked how smart Ichigo was and said something like "scary." So it makes sense to make it literally impossible for Ginjo to reveal his intentions.Also, Ishida was never struck by Tsukihima. He was struck by Ginjo. That was explained this last chapter.
Well yeah that is what I'm theorizing. To make sure Ichigo believes him, the dude must've had Tsukishima cut and alter his memories of being evil so that way he won't look suspicious. I doubt any intelligent person could tell if somebody had their memories altered and was using that to their advantage.
There's just so much confusion now, I kinda forgot about that 😮
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Well yeah that is what I'm theorizing. To make sure Ichigo believes him, the dude must've had Tsukishima cut and alter his memories of being evil so that way he won't look suspicious. I doubt any intelligent person could tell if somebody had their memories altered and was using that to their advantage.There's just so much confusion now, I kinda forgot about that 😮
I see what you're saying, now.
It's possible that Ginjo has had his memories altered, twice, now.
We don't know if Ginjo is truly bad: he could have had the memory implanted in him that he is the bad guy.
Same with Ishida.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no way to tell, anymore. I hate you, Kubo. This is PIS to the max. You cannot tell who is on first, anymore. There's no way to tell if anything is adding up. Tushi can like about anything he's done.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It's possible that Ginjo has had his memories altered, twice, now.We don't know if Ginjo is truly bad: he could have had the memory implanted in him that he is the bad guy.
Same with Ishida.
There's no way to tell, anymore. I hate you, Kubo. This is PIS to the max. You cannot tell who is on first, anymore. There's no way to tell if anything is adding up. Tushi can like about anything he's done.
I would assume so considering the fact that it's been stated in the chapter that it takes a second cut from Tsukishima to return to one's former self and Ginjo's former self apparently had to be a power hungry prick and here I was liking his good side even though his temporary good nature while looking like Aizen made me feel ill.
That or maybe it does take two cuts from you know who to return a person to normal.
So you think Tsukishima implanted Ginjo in Uryu's memory of when he was attacked that night? Why would he do that if Ginjo really is as the chapter makes him out to be? He wouldn't have only got Ishida going against him. He'd also use Chad, Orihime, and all the other members of Xcution so why would he.................
I'M EVEN MORE CONFUSED NOW!!!
I hate you Kubo!
Originally posted by Nemesis X
So you think Tsukishima implanted Ginjo in Uryu's memory of when he was attacked that night? Why would he do that if Ginjo really is as the chapter makes him out to be? He wouldn't have only got Ishida going against him. He'd also use Chad, Orihime, and all the other members of Xcution so why would he.................I'M EVEN MORE CONFUSED NOW!!!
I hate you Kubo!
Quite simple to explain: that's the first time he cut Ginjo.
He only cut Ishida once.
He implanted the memory into Ishida that Ginjo cut him and he implanted the memory with Ginjo that he had cut Ginjo twice.
All problems solved.
However, Kubo will make it more confusing by doing it the other way: Ginjo was the bad guy but wanted to be cut to be the good guy while he trainied Ichigo so Ginjo had Tsu cut him again when he was done.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Quite simple to explain: that's the first time he cut Ginjo.He only cut Ishida once.
He implanted the memory into Ishida that Ginjo cut him and he implanted the memory with Ginjo that he had cut Ginjo twice.
However, Kubo will make it more confusing by doing it the other way: Ginjo was the bad guy but wanted to be cut to be the good guy while he trainied Ichigo so Ginjo had Tsu cut him again when he was done.
No, I think that was the second time he got cut. Like he said, he's back to normal although because Tsukishima can make things really confusing, this could all just be BS but my theory of him being evil first makes sense so that puts a dent in him being currently affected by Tsukishima's ability.
Yeah but we don't even know if Tsukishima did cut Uryu or not.
If that's the case, then why did Ginjo have knowledge of stealing Fullbrings the moment he got cut the "first time"? To me, his memory of learning such a thing was probably altered too so his good side wouldn't use it against Tsukishima because he was worried he wouldn't go back to his original self if he didn't.
I think that would make a lot of sense.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
No, I think that was the second time he got cut. Like he said, he's back to normal although because Tsukishima can make things really confusing, this could all just be BS but my theory of him being evil first makes sense so that puts a dent in him being currently affected by Tsukishima's ability.Yeah but we don't even know if Tsukishima did cut Uryu or not.
If that's the case, then why did Ginjo have knowledge of stealing Fullbrings the moment he got cut the "first time"? To me, his memory of learning such a thing was probably altered too so his good side wouldn't use it against Tsukishima because he was worried he wouldn't go back to his original self if he didn't.
I think that would make a lot of sense.
Well, in my proposed scenario, Tsukishima has orchestrated everything in everyone including the idea that Ginjo was cut twice and Ishida thinks Ginjo cut him.
Lemme rephrase to make it make sense:
Ishida THINKS Ginjo cut him because that's what memory Tsukishima infused into Ishida when he cut off Ishida's arm.
Ginjo THINKS he was cut twice and that he is a bad guy that takes fullbrings because that's what Tsukishima cut into Ginjo's memory.
Think about it: why does it make even a little sense that Ginjo takes fullbrings when everyone around Ginjo STILL HAS THEIRE FULLBRING? It makes much more sense if Ginjo simply got that memory implanted into him by Tsukishima.
However, like you suggested, this could all be wrong and Kubo didn't think anything through.
How would Tsukishima insert Ginjo into Ishida's past? That doesn't make sense in the context of his powers. He is inserting his essence into people's minds/past/whatever. He hasn't done anything like put someone else into the memories of the victim.
I assume Ginjo wants Ichigo's fullbring because it is special. What with him being half-Death God and all.
Okay so I did some research.
It makes some sense now.
Spoiler:
He pulls a substitute Shinigami badge from his pocket and merged it with his Fullbring. He is the Shinigami that the original members of Xcution gave their powers to. Furthermore, Tsukishima's Book Of The End power "displaces" people in timelines/memories by replacing them with Tsukishima. This gets shown when Chad claims that Tsukishima was the one that defeated Aizen, not Ichigo. When Ginjo talks about all the horrific things he remembers Tsukishima doing- like killing all the former Xecution members- it's because the person that Tsukishima replaced in Ginjo's new memories/timeline was Ginjo himself.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, in my proposed scenario, Tsukishima has orchestrated everything in everyone including the idea that Ginjo was cut twice and Ishida thinks Ginjo cut him.Ishida THINKS Ginjo cut him because that's what memory Tsukishima infused into Ishida when he cut off Ishida's arm.
Ginjo THINKS he was cut twice and that he is a bad guy that takes fullbrings because that's what Tsukishima cut into Ginjo's memory.
Think about it: why does it make even a little sense that Ginjo takes fullbrings when everyone around Ginjo STILL HAS THEIRE FULLBRING? It makes much more sense if Ginjo simply got that memory implanted into him by Tsukishima.
However, like you suggested, this could all be wrong and Kubo didn't think anything through.
That or the whole thing was orchestrated by Ginjo.
Why would Tsukishima only have Ishida target Ginjo when he could've just inserted himself in Ishida's memories of the past, making the Quincy believe that him and Mr. Bookmark are bffs and try to stop the "psychopathic" Ichigo? I don't know why he'd want to have Uryu trying only to eliminate Ginjo when Xcution was already looking like they were kicking his @$$.
I doubt it.
Now why would Tsukishima make his enemy more powerful? How come he couldn't steal Ichigo's powers for himself and only let Ginjo do it? If you ask me, Tsukishima might actually be Ginjo's loyal servant or something to be going through all this just for that jackass.
Possibly.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
How would Tsukishima insert Ginjo into Ishida's past? That doesn't make sense in the context of his powers. He is inserting his essence into people's minds/past/whatever. He hasn't done anything like put someone else into the memories of the victim.I assume Ginjo wants Ichigo's fullbring because it is special. What with him being half-Death God and all.
Maybe Tsukishima didn't explain his powers entirely.
That must be the case if Ginjo is going through all this just to take it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay so I did some research.It makes some sense now.
Spoiler:
He pulls a substitute Shinigami badge from his pocket and merged it with his Fullbring. He is the Shinigami that the original members of Xcution gave their powers to. Furthermore, Tsukishima's Book Of The End power "displaces" people in timelines/memories by replacing them with Tsukishima. This gets shown when Chad claims that Tsukishima was the one that defeated Aizen, not Ichigo. When Ginjo talks about all the horrific things he remembers Tsukishima doing- like killing all the former Xecution members- it's because the person that Tsukishima replaced in Ginjo's new memories/timeline was Ginjo himself.
Where did you get such info ruffian?
Oh, and I stilled called his evilness! 😮
Okay....
Reading through it again...
I'm freaking confused.
Are all the Xcution people in on it or not? Because they seemed to have past memories of Tsukishima but now they are his friends. This means they must have been cut twice two, right?
Ginjo is going to great lengths when he could have just betrayed Ichigo the old fashioned way.
Also, does BoE not work on Quincys? Cause I don't see why Ginjo would attack him if Tsukishima could use his ability to mind screw him.