Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. No, Shunpo, and likely Sonido, all have specific techniques within them. And after-images, does not prove greater speed.
It does. He said it was Sonido. He said he was so fast at it that he could create clones...aka, after images. He is literally constantly moving...ridiculously fast, to produce those after images. Byakuya never contradicted him, either. Don't you think, in his arrogance, that he would have called Zom's claim?
You can go outside the manga for explanations, if you'd like. I'm going to stick with what he said.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
2. His "intelligence?" Um...No? He used a technique taught to him by Yoruichi I think to keep up. And Zommari was self proclaimed fastest, Stark has proven to be faster.
He used a technique taught to him.....hmm...using his memories in an advantageous way in the middle of a fight.
Sounds an awful lot like intelligence, doesn't it?
No, Stark has NOT proven to be faster. You concluded with insufficient logic that Stark is faster.
Unless it was proven that Stark's Sonido is fast enough to make after image clones, or the after image clones were NOT an uber Sonido, but a technique and the Esapda was lying about it being the Sonido, then you have no logical foot to stand on to prove your point.
However, my evidence is that Zom said himself that his Sonido was the fastest.
We do NOT know that Stark's disappearance was Sonido. It could be teleportation, for all we know. You can't definitively conclude that it was Sonido until otherwise proven. You can assume it was Sonido...but you could just as easily assume it was teleportation under the same exact logic. Zom, however, said his was Sonido. An advanced Sonido that even had illusory properties.
In a logic class, I am 100% correct in what I am saying. Variance from what I have presented would be employing less logic, and therefore, would fall short of the logic I have presented.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
3. Disagree, that feat is largely exaggerrated. For one, given the size of his sword, he would have hit multiple with each swing, not to mention the noticeable "wind effect" when he used it, which would clearly affect small, thin blades, and they are not microscopic, they are very visible.
I agree that he would probably have hit multiple blades each swing.
However, SeaShell head said millions. What you see is 100 million fragments. 😐 Just because you see something that is symbolic of a flower petal, does not mean it is the cutting blade.
And you think a little wind is going to get in the way of the control of SeaShell head?
You have done two things:
1. Underestimated Byakuya's abilities.
2. You have greatly underestimated that speed feet from Ichigo in that fight.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
4. And why is that? Why must we assume PIS when Stark, who before then had no speed feats, was shown to be easily faster, why can't Stark just be that fast? Stark is the Primera, and is fighting one of the strongest Captains, why can he not be faster? Other than because you say so.
I clearly defined what I meant. You have interpreted it the wrong way. PIS can also be a negative thing.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Meaning, over writing the speed of Ichigo's bankai while under writing it when stark came by.
Do you understand what I meant by that?
I meant that the PIS moment is writing Ichigo with waaaaaaay too much speed in his Bankai form in his fight with SeaShells and then under writing his speed by leagues upon leagues when Stark came by and disappeared.
Sure, Stark is fast. But Ichigo should have been much faster.
It is just PIS. Continuity problems in the power of the characters. He shouldn't have given Ichigo that speed feat in his versus fight with Byakuya.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
5. Barragan is a short, angry, old man on steroids, who wears a crown. That's 1337.
He's short?
I thought he was big, tall, and arrogant and compensating.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
6. Well, um dur. And not true, at all, Yamamoto's feat was easily as impressive or more, as were Aizen's, hell, even Kenpachi's are comparable.
How about a major no?
No one in all of Bleach even comes close to Ulq's second release in terms of reitsu. Neither Ishido nor anyone has never been found speaking like this of another's reitsu.
However, your "reaching to the heavens" feat is reached on multiple occasions by several different characters.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
7. Right, and right now we have the strongest Captain barring Yamamoto fighting who is considered the strongest Espada, both have yet to reveal shit, whereas Ichigo and to an extent Ulquiorra have.
I agree that it's possible that all the quatro may have a second release that they didn't tell each other about. However, it's possible that it is only Ulq because Ulq's hallow hole moved whereas the other's did not.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
8. Um, actually, Aaroniero was an arrancar. 😬Why do you think he wasn't? Because he looks weird?
Really?
This whole time I thought he was a gillian because he said he was.
See if you can find in there where he is beyond Gillian. He is an espada, but his form is Gillian, isn't it?
Originally posted by dadudemon
The bone thing still makes her look like fvcking skelewhore. 😬
That's just simply where her mask remnant is. Ulq's is on top of his head...stupid.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Nnoitra also looks more inhuman, dude is fvckin weird lookin as hell. And what about Yammy? Guy's like fvckin 20 foot tall.
Nnoitra is just skinny and has the hole in his eye. Normal coloring and no weird face colorations, like Ulq.
Originally posted by dadudemon
9. Yamamoto's was described as a fiery inferno reachin the heavens. And he was not even using Bankai.Aizen's brought Grimmjowe to his knees, not even using Shikai.
Aizan and Yamamoto are both reitsu gods. No doubt. We'll see.
If the quatro can all do second release, then Stark's should be like a WTF moment similar to the "ultimate rasengan" moment and Jiraiya. 😄
We'll see. As of right now, I'd rather play it safe. I don't want to over assume.