Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually ichigo's cero was much smaller, as it was done on the ROOF of the building and it was significantly smaller than LN.
I saw the same thing you did.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
as for nukes, ur wrong, they only SEEM to expand slowly, actually they are expanding at hypersonic speeds,
1. My comments were relative to the energy blasts in Bleach. Context goes a long in understanding what is meant in a post and context applies in just about any language. And, no, it doesn't travel hypersonic speeds. Not even close, actually. It travels much closer to the speed of sound. Of course, I'm referring to the blast radius, and not the fireball. The fireball expands even slower.
Just in case you are not aware, it goes like this:
Sub-sonic, sonic, supersonic, hypersonic. The blast radius travels, outside of the fireball, at sonic speeds. The reason for this...basically, the blast wave is a really really really loud sound wave. 😐
2. There are SEVERAL energy elements to a nuclear explosion, not just the fireball. The fireball, or the superheated atmosphere, travels relatively slowly. It travels SLOWER than the speed of sound, for the most part. Sure, at initial detonation for a couple of seconds or so, it travels at super sonic speeds, but it slows down very quickly and then slowly expands. The blast radius is the fastest sustained traveling physical element in a nuclear explosion..of course, the electromagnetic elements travel faster than the blast radius...but they are not physical elements but electromagnetic elements.
Case in point, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to nuclear weapons, you didn't know what I was talking about, and all points in your post, except for the first, are factually incorrect. That's okay. It should be expected that if anyone disagreed with me, they would be utterly raped. I studied physics in college for a few years. 😐
For more reading on nuclear blasts, see the following sites that I brought up by google searching "nuclear blast," and "nuclear weapons". It took me all of 2 minutes to find these for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_explosion
http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/blast.htm
http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/thermal.htm
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the shockwave only looks slow as the area its covering is so huge.
Slow is a relative term. It is traveling slower than the blast radius, yes. It expands slowly because it isn't very fast.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
its the same with volcanoe clouds, like mount pinatubu, they SEEM to slowly, go towards the sky, however, if it was a race, no jet fighter, or even missile would be able to keep up with their speed.
No. No no no no. You don't know what you're talking about. Please, stop before you dig yourself any deeper. You should definitely know what you're talking about before you start talking. Do you think that 420 KM/h is faster than a supersonic fighter jet?
Here's how I arrived at that number:
Fastest eruption to height found was 21 KM over 3 minutes. You can calculate this in two ways, my way (which is the genius way 😄 ) or the text book way.
My way, I just know automatically to calculate 21/3*60 (I didn't use conversion factors in chemistry either, I just calculated straight out and it baffled my Chemistry professors). That equals 420.
The text book way is to first convert your time to hours (since the result will be in kilometers per hour.)
That's 3/60. That equals .05.
Next, you calculate how many kilometers an hour it was traveling.
So that's 21/.05 = 420 KM/H.
Is 420 KM/H a sonic or a supersonic speed?
Let's see.
What is sonic at sea level? (This is rhetorical.)
Now, we can also measure the velocity at exit point, and that should be much faster than 420KM/H. However, that is not how the vast majority of the ash cloud travels. The "lighter" eruptions have faster traveling ash columns than the other types of eruptions. The more "particle" laden the eruption cloud, the slower it travels due to the density of the materials. (Obviously...the whole thing about atmospheric resistance and inertia.) However, on the VEI scale, 8s are just packed with energy.
Your example of a volcano is not very applicable to the conversation. Sure, a pyroclastic cloud might be something that could substitute for a blast wave, but why no use a nuclear explosion as it is just much more comparable to the energy explosions in the anime.