The Official BLEACH series Thread

Originally posted by NemeBro
We're not talking about Urahara. This is about Yhwach and Aizen. Stay on topic.

If you had understood why I mentioned Urahara, you'd understand why you pretending it is a red herring makes no sense. Additionally, it was a suggestion for someone that better fits your factually incorrect idea of Aizen. 😉

Originally posted by NemeBro
It wasn't something Ichigo had to learn, yeah, I never claimed otherwise. 👆

Not so fast, you sneak. You said this:

"From his sole ability (to manipulate spiritual power) he developed all the powers inherent to every Quincy, as well as a few of his own."

His "sole ability" was not the ability to manipulate spiritual power. His abilities (plural) were multiple even as an infant. Things he was born with. Things he couldn't even control (want to talk about instinct: this is beyond instinct. This is involuntary actions).

You said he developed them. I disagreed with that notion as there's really no reason to support that and, based off of Ichigo, seems like a natural reflex for people like Quincy. You conceded that point, here: "Ichigo did indeed accidentally use them..."

So are we bros, again? Meaning, are we on the same page and you agree with me?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What a pedo.

I started reading Bleach this in 2002. I was a hipster of Japanese Manga because I started reading them before it was cool in the US. 🙂

I would have read the first few chapters from volume 10 in 2003, which would have made me 19 at the time. She was supposed to be 15-17, somewhere in there. But we all know she's likely decades old. Where I was going with all this, I was only slightly older than she was. 🙂 I just had a flashback to my older days and what I thought of Bleach. I never realized how annoying Momo became until just that moment. You created an epiphany in me that made me realize how much I have changed my views towards characters.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So why do you prefer Aizen?

Yhwach on the other hand believes that he's God made flesh and that all his actions are justified through birthright. There's also the angel motif of the Quincy and whole Yhwah, Uryū, Jugram; father, son and holy ghost analogy.

Looks like I missed out on an interesting discussion here.

That said, wow, Osho's shikai is pretty broken.

I don't get what is going on. Now we are getting reality manipulating shikais?

Is that what is up? 😬

"You can't steal my powers because I have an "anti-power steal" power."

Next week:

"Oho! No no! I have "anti-anti-power stealing" powers!"

The week after:

"Oh ho ho ho no no no! I have anti-anti-anti-power stealing powers!"

The week after that, butt beads boy bites the big oblivion (he dies). And then we get Ichigo vs. YHWH.

In order for the storyline to progress, Buddha Boy dies in the end.

It will be up to Ichigo, Aizen 2.0 and Co., or The Soul King himself to finish the job.

All those black screens.

@DDM: Yes, that seems to be it. Its not massively far from shikais like Shunsui's.

^ While not all that different it still holds an edge in that it doesn't appear to be dangerous to the user. IIRC Shunsui is also restrained to following his shikai's rules.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
^ While not all that different it still holds an edge in that it doesn't appear to be dangerous to the user. IIRC Shunsui is also restrained to following his shikai's rules.

I called it reality manip because it was dipping into a different dimension and pulling power from that dimension, too. It's like a trans-dimensional spirit bomb.

That's a bit cray-cray.

Ink guy! You are not a major character and you're fighting a final boss! While possibly wounding him *may* be possible, your hax 'win' attacks cannot succeed!

I have a weird feeling that Ink guy is going to beat him and its going to be revealed that he is the main bad guy. And the quincy are actually the ultimate good guys compared to the soul reapers in this situation.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I have a weird feeling that Ink guy is going to beat him and its going to be revealed that he is the main bad guy. And the quincy are actually the ultimate good guys compared to the soul reapers in this situation.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I have a weird feeling that Ink guy is going to beat him and its going to be revealed that he is the main bad guy. And the quincy are actually the ultimate good guys compared to the soul reapers in this situation.

I wish this was true. And the Zero Squad is actually holding the Soul King hostage.

Maybe what we understand about the quincy is not correct. That they don't destroy them out right when they kill arrancar and the soul reapers were lying? 😛 I just have a weird feeling Aizen, Quincies, and the soul king stuff is all connected in a deeper plot.

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I have a weird feeling that Ink guy is going to beat him and its going to be revealed that he is the main bad guy. And the quincy are actually the ultimate good guys compared to the soul reapers in this situation.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I wish this was true. And the Zero Squad is actually holding the Soul King hostage.

The main reason I'd be skeptical of something like that happening is because of the unambiguously evil and insane actions of many of the Vandenreich. The portrayal of them as the "ultimate good guys" would be bizarre and clash with their prior characterization.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
No offense but that sounds a little too clever for Kubo to pull off effectively.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The main reason I'd be skeptical of something like that happening is because of the unambiguously evil and insane actions of many of the Vandenreich. The portrayal of them as the "ultimate good guys" would be bizarre and clash with their prior characterization.

This guy would like to have a word with you:

Originally posted by Astner
Then why build a palace and not a dungeon, and why honor him with the title of king instead of denying his existence.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This guy would like to have a word with you:

The Vandenreich? I can recall a few less overly evil members like Askin, but no heroes. Yhwach himself is also pretty overtly cruel. Yamamoto by comparison could be an ass, but he never killed or maimed indiscriminately in the present time (that I can recall, anyway).

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Hence why I said it'd be too clever for Kubo to effectively explain why the Zero Division, and SS in general, are supposedly bad guys w/o it being a mess. I mean on one had you have Mayuri's existence while on the other hand there's death camps in Hueco Mundo.

Kubo has shown plenty of instances of consistent foreshadowing.