The Official BLEACH series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nada. The Central 46 is, or rather, was the section of SS that handled the decisions and everything. General Yamamoto now takes care of the matters the Central 46 used to take care of, so he is, in essence, the Central 46.

Basically, the Central 46 is the judicial system, and they are answerable to no one, bar the King perhaps, though as we both know, he's just a figurehead.

The Gotei 13 are a part of the Military of SS, along with the Kido Corps and the Stealth Corps (Onmi-something).
Then we have the 4 Noble Families. I don't know if they actually have a say in legal matters, though given their status, they probably do.

Captains are usually allowed to act on their own discretion so long as they abide by the laws set by the Central 46, but legal matters and (major?) decisions such as executions or treason, are left to the Central 46. I don't think Captains are allowed to take these decisions into their own hands. The Gotei 13 never went after Rukia until AFTER the decision was passed by C46/Aizen.

So now that I've enlightened you on how SS works 😛 (well, this is just how I view it, there might be a few errors here and there), let's get back to the matter at hand.

Aizen killed the Central 46 and thus 'became' the Central 46. There was no judiciary system after Aizen revealed himself. However, the absence of the C46 does not give the Captains the right to take the law into their own hands imo. They should know that much. Without an official order to execute Aizen, they could not do so, regardless of whether the C46 existed or not.

Yuroichi was a former captain, and she was on the side of the Shinigami. The best she could do would be to try and take Aizen as a prisoner. If she or Soifon had executed him right there and then, it would have been for the better (in hindsight), but it would have been viewed as an act of treason by the next Judicial System.

While I agree that the Central 46 (lol, that's the number) were the leaders, without the central 46, we are left with only the military arm to lead. I see no evidence for Yoruchi and Soifon being commanded by Yamamoto to stand down or even imply that he would do such a thing (in fact, it can be soundly reasoned that he would have commanded it had they not surrounded him because he was going to kill Ukitake and Shunsui for their "treason"..his tow most prized students that were pratcially sons to him), nor is there in reason why they should not have executed him on the spot ESPECIALLY since they were part of the assassination squad (which has the role of being the detention squad/prison peeps/etc.)

There's also the fact that Aizen admitted to everthing, there was evidence proving that, and the fact that Aizen had comitted multiple forms of treason. He broke just about every single established law from the Central 46. There is aboslutely not doubt, at all, that he should have been executed. The fact that Yamamoto did NOT say don't kill him when they had their blades to Aizen should soundly confirm that Aizen was ripe and ready for some death.

Yamamoto was never going to kill Ukitake and Shunsui. Did you think that was a legitimite threat?

Originally posted by Quincy
Yamamoto was never going to kill Ukitake and Shunsui. Did you think that was a legitimite threat?

Yeah...cause he released his Zanpakutou and he said he was going to.

Originally posted by Quincy
Yamamoto was never going to kill Ukitake and Shunsui. Did you think that was a legitimite threat?

This was the fight I so BADLY wanted to see...

despite Nanao saying that both Ukitake and Shunsui had no chance, I honestly think that even if Yamamoto wins, he would not escape unscathed...

Yama would be the only person I can imagine that can beat a shikai so broken.

"Oh, a game where you attack whatever color the other guy is wearing by saying it out loud?"

*sets Shunsui on fire*

Orange.

considering that Ukitake's shikai can work well against reiatsu based attacks, i think it would provide a decent diversion for Shunsui or both to mount some form of offensive...

i am not saying that they can beat Yama-jii though...

i mean, atleast Ukitake was able to succesfully repel 3 cero blasts from a released Starrk...

of course, Sogyo no Kotowari has a limit to the amount of attacks it can absorb, i still stand by my statement that though both captains may lose, they should be able to at least get some hits in...

Originally posted by Eman5805
Yama would be the only person I can imagine that can beat a shikai so broken.

"Oh, a game where you attack whatever color the other guy is wearing by saying it out loud?"

*sets Shunsui on fire*

Orange.

😆

Pure win.

Originally posted by dadudemon
While I agree that the Central 46 (lol, that's the number) were the leaders, without the central 46, we are left with only the military arm to lead. I see no evidence for Yoruchi and Soifon being commanded by Yamamoto to stand down or even imply that he would do such a thing (in fact, it can be soundly reasoned that he would have commanded it had they not surrounded him because he was going to kill Ukitake and Shunsui for their "treason"..his tow most prized students that were pratcially sons to him), nor is there in reason why they should not have executed him on the spot ESPECIALLY since they were part of the assassination squad (which has the role of being the detention squad/prison peeps/etc.)

There's also the fact that Aizen admitted to everthing, there was evidence proving that, and the fact that Aizen had comitted multiple forms of treason. He broke just about every single established law from the Central 46. There is aboslutely not doubt, at all, that he should have been executed. The fact that Yamamoto did NOT say don't kill him when they had their blades to Aizen should soundly confirm that Aizen was ripe and ready for some death.

Well, we do have the Noble Families left.

Though yes, you do have a point. However, like you stated, they surrounded him; he never ordered the kill in time. They would need permission from Yamamoto in the first place, unless Aizen did something to retaliate, in which case it would fall to self-defense (?).

It could be as simple as the fact that they would take him as a prisoner and execute him later. They could not have known in advance about the appearance of the Menos. Thus they thought they had already quelled the threat when they surrounded him.
Pride 😛.

Originally posted by Eman5805
Yama would be the only person I can imagine that can beat a shikai so broken.

"Oh, a game where you attack whatever color the other guy is wearing by saying it out loud?"

*sets Shunsui on fire*

Orange.

Originally posted by dadudemon
😆

Pure win.

While that was funny, isn't that game a little different? It is directly proportional to the amount of the declared color you are "wearing" iirc.
So in that case, Shunsui would cause a lot of damage, not Yama 😛. If Yama said Orange, he wouldn't cause a lot of damage. That of course is irrelevant, because if Shunsui is on Yamamoto fire, he's dead.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
While that was funny, isn't that game a little different? It is directly proportional to the amount of the declared color you are "wearing" iirc.
So in that case, Shunsui would cause a lot of damage, not Yama 😛. If Yama said Orange, he wouldn't cause a lot of damage. That of course is irrelevant, because if Shunsui is on Yamamoto fire, he's dead.

Both of us assumed that Yama is fully aware of the ability so Yama turns off his flames after setting Shunsui on fire. awesome

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Meh, who knows, he might reveal something soon. He hasn't revealed any special abilities at all.

^ About Yammy

Called it...131

HULK SMASHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

~ Tousen's a Vizard. Or got eyes from Aizen >__>.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v42/c383/11.html

Apparently Hiyori grew bewbz after her death.

Lawlz.

Yammy is basically Hulk now, and Tousen is probably a Vizard.

Hmm, first thought: Yammy has a second release. Will it be as much of a complete joke as his first one was? I hope not.

That was my first thought on Tousen as well... if it's just vizard that would be kind of stupid though since he's like "this is a vague power superior to Bankai", if it was something we'd already seen that would be pretty retarded and it's not like anyone would be surprised.

Tousen's mask probably allows him to see people with their reatsu patterns or something like that. kind of like predator's heat vision goggles

Originally posted by King Kandy
Hmm, first thought: Yammy has a second release. Will it be as much of a complete joke as his first one was? I hope not.

That was my first thought on Tousen as well... if it's just vizard that would be kind of stupid though since he's like "this is a vague power superior to Bankai", if it was something we'd already seen that would be pretty retarded and it's not like anyone would be surprised.

Well what else could it be? Sajin clearly has an idea of what it is, it is either that, or maybe Tousen fires death beams from his eyes when he takes his mask off. Dunno.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I wouldn't count that so much a second release as I would an amp on his first one, he did not have to announce any commands to achieve that form, only get really pissed off.

Well what else could it be? Sajin clearly has an idea of what it is, it is either that, or maybe Tousen fires death beams from his eyes when he takes his mask off. Dunno.

I have no clue what it is, but i'd be willing to bet it's not a vizard form (unless maybe it's a super-hollow form like the one Ichigo used on Ulquiorra?)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Hmm, first thought: Yammy has a second release. Will it be as much of a complete joke as his first one was? I hope not.

That was my first thought on Tousen as well... if it's just vizard that would be kind of stupid though since he's like "this is a vague power superior to Bankai", if it was something we'd already seen that would be pretty retarded and it's not like anyone would be surprised.

I don't think Yammy's power-up qualifies as a second release, as his strength is directly proportional to his anger (read: Hulk). It's a unique ability of his, akin to Barragan's Respira. Also, he took some serious damage while released, and he is still standing. That's impressive in its own right.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, but it looks completely different from his first release. Maybe second release is the wrong term, but it is a distinct third form at least.

I have no clue what it is, but i'd be willing to bet it's not a vizard form (unless maybe it's a super-hollow form like the one Ichigo used on Ulquiorra?)

It's a vizard form, or a hollow-related one (unlikely, as he'd want to keep control of himself this early on).

He healed everything, did he not?

That puts his regen on at least the level of Nnoitra's, maybe nearing Ulquiorra's.

Also, Kubo needs to make up his damn mind on where Yammy gets his power. Originally it was implied his power and size were from eating souls, now it is from his anger apparently.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He healed everything, did he not?

That puts his regen on at least the level of Nnoitra's, maybe nearing Ulquiorra's.

Also, Kubo needs to make up his damn mind on where Yammy gets his power. Originally it was implied his power and size were from eating souls, now it is from his anger apparently.

I'm leaning towards the latter. Though it's possible both are power sources.