]Nate Grey VS Phoenix[

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Show me where it says Phoenix is TOAA or Gods power 🙂

You can't and we both know it GS.

Give it up Whirly you've lost. You werent even man enough to admit you were wrong about the Galactus origin. Instead youve jumped back to your lame find me where its explicitly stated TOAA argument despite the fact Jeans power is stated to come from the crown explicitly which by definition is where gods consciousness resides and in the Crown Jean follows the will of a higher consciousness. That is sufficient Whirly.

On top of that LT the servant of TOAA is a victim of the creation process Jean is responsible for as explicitly shown in Xmen Forever. LT and the abstracts says Jeans work is a part of the natural order. All together What does that tell you?

Youre a sore loser Whirly 🙁 😮

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dark Phoenix was Jean i'll explain everything when i get back from Egypt. Jean was born as Phoenix she just didnt know she herself was phoenix until recently. When Jean was in the space shuttle her phoenix self appeared to her. Go the Xmen forum look at the Jean Grey/ Phoenix thread and read my posts.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So Phoenix 2 was a manifestation of her own power. Or would that be TOAA's power channeled through her?

Its not the TOAA's power 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Its not the TOAA's power 🙂

Because that's the claim you're making. And such a claim is subject to a burden of proof as well.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
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Originally posted by wannabe
#1) The Phoenixforce is shapeless and not an entity. This energy does not need a shape to bring a universe into another cycle...which is a natural process.
The avatars are there only to correct, eliminate or recreate something that has gone wrong!
Combining both facts you will certainly have no Phoenix-bird hovering over the last big bang of 616.

#2)What did you want to prove in your "case" with the Endsong story?

Good point it said nothing about Phoenix ending or starting the Universe niether did the handbook scan of Galactus GS put up it only said it filled the egg, so your saying GS is wrong and it doesn't end or start universes. It only repairs them Its like the cosmic plumber Phoenix Mario.

Of course it didnt say that stuff because it was Galactus' origin. Why is it going to talk in detail about what Phoenix was up to? 🙄

That was posted to prove phoenix was responsible for his creation and that only. Dont try and make it out as insufficient evidence just because you were proved wrong 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Of course it didnt say that stuff because it was Galactus' origin. Why is it going to talk in detail about what Phoenix was up to? 🙄

That was posted to prove phoenix was responsible for his creation and that only. Dont try and make it out as insufficient evidence just because you were proved wrong 😉

You have still proved nothing, all it said is that universes Phoenix Force filled Galactuses egg, he therefore is an amlgam of "that" Phoenix Force and his Celestial powers. It even implies more than one Phoenix force. read its exact phrase.

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Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
You have still proved nothing, all it said is that universes Phoenix Force filled Galactuses egg, he therefore is an amlgam of "that" Phoenix Force and his Celestial powers. It even implies more than one Phoenix force. read its exact phrase.

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You're understanding and interpretation are awful. I expect better from you of all people. It says that Phoenix force saved him and brought him to the cosmic egg. The cosmic egg being the collapsed old eternity. So Phoenix saved him and brought him to egg where he was bonded with the essence of Eternity.

That last comment is cryptic who knows what the hell that meant

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You're understanding and interpretation are awful. I expect better from you of all people. It says that Phoenix force saved him and brought him to the cosmic egg. The cosmic egg being the collapsed old eternity. So Phoenix saved him and brought him to egg where he was bonded with the essence of Eternity.

That last comment is cryptic who knows what the hell that meant

It said the energy of "that" universe filled his egg, it also says nothing about Phoenix having a role in the destruction of that universe or the creation of another. Interpretation again your seeing what you wish to see. You have "proved" nothing.

How is Galactus the sole survivor if the Phoenix force was localized. . . wouldn't that nmean that the phoenix force would have "died"

But then what about the white hot room that exists outside of universe 616 with the other phoenixes where one said that he would have let that one die?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
It said the energy of "that" universe filled his egg, it also says nothing about Phoenix having a role in the destruction of that universe or the creation of another. Interpretation again your seeing what you wish to see. You have "proved" nothing. 🙂

As i said previously you doubted Phoenixes involvement in Galactus' creation. I then came up with the proof and proved you wrong. Instead of admitting this like a man should you keep saying that scan proved nothing as if it was supposed to prove something else. Cowardly Whirly. 😂 Be a man and accept when youre wrong. 😮

The scan says Galactus was filled with the energy the radiation being given off by the egg, it was killing all of those around him but Phoenix saved him and he was bonded with the egg. Get it right old chap.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said previously you doubted Phoenixes involvement in Galactus' creation. I then came up with the proof and proved you wrong. Instead of admitting this like a man should you keep saying that scan proved nothing as if it was supposed to prove something else. Cowardly Whirly. 😂 Be a man and accept when youre wrong. 😮

The scan says Galactus was filled with the energy the radiation being given off by the egg, it was killing all of those around him but Phoenix saved him and he was bonded with the egg. Get it right old chap.

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I doubt your Phoennix it says the Phoenix force of the dying universe in the Galactus one shot he bonded with a source of energy in his egg was that the whole Phoenix Force of that Universe? 🙂

Interpretation 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I doubt your Phoennix it says the Phoenix force of the dying universe in the Galactus one shot he bonded with a source of energy in his egg was that the whole Phoenix Force of that Universe? 🙂

Stop being silly old chap. Phoenix is Phoenix. You doubted the forces involvement. I went on to enlighten you. Forget the Galactus one shot that itself retconned a previous Galactus origin. The one shot has been scrapped it is no longer current continuity so dont worry yourself with it. I have provided you with Galactus new origin read and remember it. 😮 😛

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I doubt your Phoennix it says the Phoenix force of the dying universe in the Galactus one shot he bonded with a source of energy in his egg was that the whole Phoenix Force of that Universe? 🙂

Interpretation 🙂

But now we see phoenix hosts existing outside of 616 commenting on different universes.

Maybe the "phoenix force" iof the dying universe was a host?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Stop being silly old chap. Phoenix is Phoenix. You doubted the forces involvement. I went on to enlighten you. Forget the Galactus one shot that itself retconned a previous Galactus origin. The one shot has been scrapped it is no longer current continuity so dont worry yourself with it. I have provided you with Galactus new origin read and remember it. 😮 😛

It says "that" universes, your the only one who says Phoenix is Phoenix GS 🙂

What is phoenix if phoenix is not phoenix?

That's why we number these *********s. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Then that would mean another Phoenix force would have had to be created since Galan was the sole survivor. . .

But now we see phoenix hosts existing outside of 616 commenting on different universes.

Maybe the "phoenix force" iof the dying universe was a host?

Good post Cresh. If you read Xmen Forever you'll see that every creation cycle humanity evolves to a point where they surpass and replace the abstracts and Galactus. The abstracts are the old universes evolved humanity. The phoenix probably was an avatar.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Good post Cresh. If you read Xmen Forever you'll see that every creation cycle humanity evolves to a point where they surpass and replace the abstracts and Galactus. The abstracts are the old universes evolved humanity. The phoenix probably was an avatar.

Ahh the omega theory again 😂

circular you repeating youself and proving nothing still goodnight enjoy egypt 🙂

Post the scan when you get back to college if you can 😂

Somehow I doubt it 🙂

Indeed it is the Omega theory again. 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Ahh the omega theory again 😂

circular you repeating youself and proving nothing still goodnight enjoy egypt 🙂

Post the scan when you get back to college if you can 😂

Somehow I doubt it 🙂

Thats actually stated in the comics. Ask KG if you wish he's read it and would back me up 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
P9 and wannabe are you boys or girls?

I'm a dude! 😄