Originally posted by WhirlysplattMy poor abused s. . .
Do you want to be lumped in Creshook? Most people posting did not agree with GS🙂
I don't really care. I've been toying with a couple of theories I've been collecting from various sites to make this one image. . . 😖hifty:
It's odd I'm quite content with admitting some of my own created characters as being weak, but promoting other people's characters. . . 😑
Then agin . . hmm . . . 😕
Originally posted by Creshosk
My poor abused s. . .I don't really care. I've been toying with a couple of theories I've been collecting from various sites to make this one image. . . 😖hifty:
It's odd I'm quite content with admitting some of my own created characters as being weak, but promoting other people's characters. . . 😑
Then agin . . hmm . . . 😕
Your confused 😕 after your post so am I my friend 😕
Majority of posters? 😕
Since when does Leon equal that? 😮
The Specific Hierarchy thread disagrees strongly with that im afraid 🙁 :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=331574&pagenumber=8#post4836332
I know you hate to lose so continue with the fallacious counters.
Go Team Denial!! 😱
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Majority of posters? 😕Since when does Leon equal that? 😮
The Specific Hierarchy thread disagrees strongly with that im afraid 🙁 :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=331574&pagenumber=8#post4836332
I know you hate to lose so continue with the fallacious counters.
Go Team Denial!! 😱
Please post the proof Leon, myself and about 5 other people have asked for till then you have not moved your case forward. 🙂
Its not about winning or losing GS its about debate we have asked for you to prove your statements the onus is on you to do so you have not.
It you can please post. 🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Please post the proof Leon, myself and about 5 other people have asked for till then you have not moved your case forward. 🙂Its not about winning or losing GS its about debate we have asked for you to prove your statements the onus is on you to do so you have not.
It you can please post. 🙂
To which my reply all along has been:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not everyone has access to a scanner. Ive listed the comics for you. They are easily downloaded. I have done all i am obligated to do. Why dont you put the effort into trying to prove me wrong and check up on those references ive given you? 😱
The fact that ive listed dozens of issues and sperated them into which claims they support should tell you something. I dont have access to a scanner so put some effort in and check out the appropriate issues.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
To which my reply all along has been:The fact that ive listed dozens of issues and sperated them into which claims they support should tell you something. I dont have access to a scanner so put some effort in and check out the appropriate issues.
This proves nothing: OK you don't have access to a scanner, but it says nowhere in any issue "Phoenix is Gods power", this is established!
isn't it fishy 🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
This proves nothing: OK you don't have access to a scanner, but it says nowhere in any issue "Phoenix is Gods power", this is established!isn't it fishy 🙂
Ohh so you're starting with all the fishy nonsense again how ironic 😂
For a start Whirly not once have i used that scan as support for my claim that the phoenix force is deriven from the supreme being of Marvel. That was posted in connection with a post on the cycle of creation. Get it right old chap 🙄
My stopwatch is ticking speak to you soon. 🤣
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ohh so you're starting with all the fishy nonsense again how ironic 😂For a start Whirly not once have i used that scan as support for my claim that the phoenix force is deriven from the supreme being of Marvel. That was posted in connection with a post on the cycle of creation. Get it right old chap 🙄
My stopwatch is ticking speak to you soon. 🤣
You have stated something, therefore the burden of proof is on you. You have to provide evidence for you position. You have to prove your point. Not me - Thats how debate works.
At the moment you have not done this - fishy 🙂
Originally posted by WhirlysplattCiting references is usually acceptable.
You have stated something, therefore the burden of proof is on you. You have to provide evidence for you position. You have to prove your point. Not me - Thats how debate works.At the moment you have not done this - fishy 🙂
As in law you do not have to pull the entire case record for a case, you merely have to cite the president.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Citing references is usually acceptable.As in law you do not have to pull the entire case record for a case, you merely have to cite the president.
citing references where you can quote something exactly is.
GS has said Phoenix is Gods power the references he has quoted do not show this imo. Certainly they do not irrefutably state this.
Therefore the burden of proof is on GS, if you reference something in a court of law etc you are expected to provide the book itself. If it is as evidence.
The burden in debates is exactly the same the document itself must be produced to support a reference.
So..........
Put up
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
citing references where you can quote something exactly is.GS has said Phoenix is Gods power the references he has quoted do not show this imo. Certainly they do not irrefutably state this.
Therefore the burden of proof is on GS, if you reference something in a court of law etc you are expected to provide the book itself. If it is as evidence.
The burden in debates is exactly the same the document itself must be produced to support a reference.
So..........
Put up
Oh look its Whirly again. In light of past comments how ironic. 😂
I made quotes and i stated what issues they came from. That is sufficient.
Happy reading mate.
💃
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
To GS -You you have provided no proof at all, you have stated a position based on your interpretation thats not the same as independant evidence. 🙂
Hi again Whirly i certainly didnt expect a reply from you 😆 😂 😆
How ya doin mate?
I made quotes and referred to events depicted in the comics i then stated the appropriate issues.
Come on mate you know i dont have a scanner which is the reason you're acting like this.
As long as you do you can delude yourself that you're right 😮
If you were to just download those delusions would come crashing down wouldnt they old chap.
I dont blame you. Grasp the glory wherever you can.
Speak to you in 2 mins 🤣
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Hi again Whirly i certainly didnt expect a reply from you 😆 😂 😆How ya doin mate?
I made quotes and referred to events depicted in the comics i then stated the appropriate issues.
Come on mate you know i dont have a scanner which is the reason you're acting like this.
As long as you do you can delude yourself that you're right 😮
If you were to just download those delusions would come crashing down wouldnt they old chap.
I dont blame you. Grasp the glory wherever you can.
Speak to you in 2 mins 🤣
Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂
blah blah blah 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
blah blah blah 😂
Indeed🙂
GS your position is based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretation is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂 and therefore can easily be critically examined.
🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Indeed🙂GS your position is based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretation is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂 and therefore can easily be critically examined.
🙂
GS has shown to be VERY creative and deductive without getting too far off the road.
Originally posted by wannabe
With all the overrating, retconning and noncrosschecking going on in the Marvel universe it's virtually impossible to present proof, that is valid for more than an issue of a specific comic.
All we can do is being creative, using our knowledge about logic thinking AND interpretation, hopefully learned during our respective mothertongue lessons at school, and try to find at least circumstantial evidence, if not proof, for our views of the Marvel universe.GS has shown to be VERY creative and deductive without getting too far off the road.
Exactly, lots of different options exist in Marvel, and thats the point. Yes he has some good idea but he has actually proved nothing. Your right and some of his ideas have no basis at all, except perhaps what GS wishes 🙂