Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Novusordo,
On the subject of the bloodlines. Where are the research notes? NOne have ever been published. How in the hell is the work supposed to be checked if the researcher doesn't allow his work to be scrutinized.Supposedly the mission of these conspiracy theorists is to convince the world of an impending new world order. You don't accomplish this by insulting anybody who dissents against you. I ask you for proof and you insult me. What are you hiding? The lack of proof perhaps. I simply want you to convince me that what you say is true. This is a natural form of learning. What's so hard to understand about it? Until you engage in an open dialogue without insults, you can't possibly expect to have any shred of credibility.
You stupid ****ing dumb bastard, like always, you are totally wrong.
There has been a few historians that have traced the true lineage of European royalty and have also traced European royalty to most, if not all of the presidents of the USA and this stuff has been published on many occasions - diden't it ever ****ing cross your mind that you simply have not seen it? Dumbass.
You have seen the other thread I made on the American royalty and that was done by the New England Genaological Society and I bet you still don't beleive, eh you hopeless heap of shit.
Originally posted by Novusordo
You stupid ****ing dumb bastard, like always, you are totally wrong.There has been a few historians that have traced the true lineage of European royalty and have also traced European royalty to most, if not all of the presidents of the USA and this stuff has been published on many occasions - diden't it ever ****ing cross your mind that you simply have not seen it? Dumbass.
You have seen the other thread I made on the American royalty and that was done by the New England Genaological Society and I bet you still don't beleive, eh you hopeless heap of shit.
There are plenty of articles about the lineage, but the research notes have never been published. The authors make statements of fact, but they never reveal how they came to that conclusion.
The New England Genealogical Society article did not name the researcher and clearly stated his work was not published.
BTW, enjoy your ban.
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
I don't know about the rest of you, but if Novusordo is representative of the average conspiracy theorist, I would welcome this new world order as long as they promised to remove people like this from society.
haha,..that'S true....what a great thread.....
Originally posted by PVSYou forgot one in this first post:
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Originally posted by Novusordo
Also, Oswald Kenobi, dont even bother trying to give you're patheticly weak alternative explanations for it all while totally ignoring what's slapping you accross the face, you ****.
I think that someone having to bash someone's characteristics that they couldn't change even if they wanted to (Sexual orientation, Skin colour, Mental capacity,phyical characteristics etc) is a bit 'off' and a bit weak and irrelevent.
It also comes off as a typical strategy employed when the basher's original argument is lost or was no point there to start with.
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
The New England Genealogical Society article did not name the researcher and clearly stated his work was not published.
Err, WTF? ...
It is commonly assumed that there is no aristocracy, let alone nobility, in America. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In his work, Ancestors of American Presidents, Gary Boyd Roberts of the New England Historic Genealogical Society reveals at least 33 presidents of the United States have been related to England’s King Alfred the Great (849-899) and Charlemagne (742-814), the famous monarch of France, and 19 Presidents are related to England’s King Edward III (1312-1377), who has a thousand blood connections to Prince Charles. Royal descendency is not only common for presidents but for other leading politicians, banking and business tycoons, military leaders, media owners, government officials, intelligence agency chiefs, etc, etc, and you will find they come from the same bloodlines which can be charted back to the British and European royal and aristocratic families and their origins in the Middle and Near East at the time of Sumer and Babylon.
It both states the name of the researcher - Gary Boyd Roberts, and also says the work was published in his book Ancestors of American Presidents. What's wrong with you?
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
There are plenty of articles about the lineage, but the research notes have never been published. The authors make statements of fact, but they never reveal how they came to that conclusion.
Just because the research notes haven't been published dosen't mean it's a all crap. Besides, since when has 'publishing research notes' been commonplace?
And they came to their conclusions by doing the research... how else is it done?
I can't beleive you are still doubting weather the top power holders of the US and the presidents are directly descended from European royalty when theres so much proof for it from so many different people. You're hopeless, you really are Oswald.
Hey Novusordo, did you know that all of humanity is related? The farther back you go, the more ancestors people share. Roberts' articles do not claim direct lineage among the same family as you would like people to believe.
It is quite commonplace in the scientific community to provide research notes to back your findings. This way your peers can double check your work. But then again conspiracy theories aren't about research, they're about molding the facts to suit their claims.
Once again, Roberts does not once claim that the Presidents are "directly" related.
Not that I have checked everything to do with that claim... but that source does itself extreme disfavour by saying that Alfred was King of England. England didn't exist at the time and even if it did, Alfred was only King of Wessex.
The idea we can trace lineage from such times is horseshit. We can barely prove Alfred even existed.
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Hey Novusordo, did you know that all of humanity is related? The farther back you go, the more ancestors people share. Roberts' articles do not claim direct lineage among the same family as you would like people to believe.
Err, actually, that is not true atall since the human race was genetically created using the early "human" race that was native to this planet before the Annunaki came along and genetically altered them with their own DNA to create a worker race to do the work and mine the gold for them so really, the common "belief" (herd-mentality following the norm without question) that all humans are related is really not true atall. Besides, royal lineage is strictly regulated and recorded and thats why you see people with royal blood always presidents of major trans-national corperations, business, banking, media moguls and holding other such positions of power and influence, not average joe on a £20,000/year job.
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
It is quite commonplace in the scientific community to provide research notes to back your findings. This way your peers can double check your work. But then again conspiracy theories aren't about research, they're about molding the facts to suit their claims.
Wait a minute, since when has the study of genaology been classed as a science and since when have genaologists been classed as conspiracy theroists and finally, I don't listen to conspiracy theorists, I listen to conspiracy researchers. Big difference.
Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
Once again, Roberts does not once claim that the Presidents are "directly" related.
No he diden't but that dosen't mean their not and besides, I know their not becuase their not some distant distant massivly diluted descendants with only a miniscule ammount of royal genes, I mean, spend a little time doing the research on the Windsor/Bush connection and you'll notice Bush has atleast one thousand blood connections to every, yes, EVERY monarch of England.
And there is even places that bet on who will be the next president of the USA even BEFORE the two "opposing" candidates are chosen and the trick to knowing is to know who in the establishment has the strongest royal heritage and this rule of choosing the presidents based on how many royal genes they have has never, ever ever been broken all the way from George Washington to Bush, thats why you get complete retards as you're presidents like Ronald Reagan who coulden't have a conversation in a White House cocktail party without looking at que-cards and Bush that can't pronounce half the words in the English language and has to resort to hysterical bullshitting when answering questions becuase, quite frankly, he hasen't got a clue about anything, he's just president because of his genes, just like all the others.
C'mon, is it really that hard to believe presidents are not really the one's in power when you get prats like the one's mentioned above?
I sincerly hope not.
Sorry, Novusordo, but this:
"spend a little time doing the research on the Windsor/Bush connection and you'll notice Bush has atleast one thousand blood connections to every, yes, EVERY monarch of England."
Is crap. I know a fair bit about royal genealogy and that is not remotely true. Some of those Monarchs are from extinct lines, for God's sake!
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Sorry, Novusordo, but this:"spend a little time doing the research on the Windsor/Bush connection and you'll notice Bush has atleast one thousand blood connections to every, yes, EVERY monarch of England."
Is crap. I know a fair bit about royal genealogy and that is not remotely true. Some of those Monarchs are from extinct lines, for God's sake!
Yes some "splinters" of royalty have been extinct but the core line is still going strong and is where all the different royal families spawn from and if you research it, it soon becomes clear that all the royalty of Europe spawns from a single line that moved out from Sumer and other places in Mesopotamia into Europe to become "royalty" and "aristoracy".
Also, when you take a brief look at just a few of the institutions and organizations under the control and influence of the Illuminati, you realise just how easy it is for them to spew out false version of royal lines and mis-information which then gets printed into the "history" book at schools and universities.
This stuff really is true and if only you'd look into it you'd see that it's undisputible.
Well of course lots of Blodlines are connected...every Historian will agree to that...but being of the same Bloodline doesn't mean that you'll work together...of course lots of royalty is connected because of marriages...that was coon Practice earlier but to say that this would be proof of a conspiracy is Bullshit...