Originally posted by leonidas
that was from ss (vol 3) #4. i'm shocked ( 😱 ) that the resident ss expert kg didn't know about that . . . ❌
But doesn't change much
That's just like how humans tag flash.
Runner in his battle showed Silver Surfer who is the boss.
And no Superman and Flash won't touch him, no where near his speed , or power.
You logic is like this Leo
Here I can post you a scan of A slow poke punching Superman , then I can say Anyone can punch superman which is utter non sence
Respect The Runner!
The runner isn't just space warps. Prior to acquiring the Space Gem, his space warping was limited to giving him something to push his feet against that could react to the force he was exerting. Going through the motions of running is really just a ritual or mental exorcise the Flashes use to tap the Speed Force. Not so the Runner. He taps the raw Power Primordial to physically enhance and power his body. He reallly does just push himself along that fast. That's why he's such a hellacious hand to hand combatant. He has enough power coursing through his veins to accellerate like that and withstand those forces. What do you think he'd do with a punch?
When he had the Space Gem, that's when he started warping bigtime, subconciously teleporting, arriving befire he left and all that sort of stuff. Without the Gem, most of that went away, but he can still warp space a lot more than he used too. It's after this period that he starts doing things like crossing the Universe in the bink of an eye and so forth. Prior to this it took him years to traverse such distances (i.e. the time from him sensing Moondragon's victory over the Dragon of the Moon to when they hooked up in New Defenders)
The other thing to keep in mind about the Runner, is that unlike most comic book tough guys, he doesn't usually hold back. Unlike Supes or whomever, he'll actually lead off with "appear out of nowhere and pummel you before you even percieve him." How many people can you name that have humbled both the Surfer and Thanos in single combat? Not many.
Could Wally steal his speed? Possably, but I'm thinking Runner would overload him.
Mantis tripping him? Remember that that wasn't "Vietnamese Barmaid with Great Kung-Fu" Mantis. Mantis as the Celestial Madonna is a godlike power in her own right. The full extent of her abilities have never been defined.
The Runner isn't unbeatable, but he may as well be in physical combat. Thanos outsmarted him. Makkari beat him in a race once by discovering a new superspeed technique. Expect the Runner to win a rematch after he learns that method too.
Now, the League is a seriously resourceful bunch. With prep they could find a way to beat these two, especially with Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern in the mix. Others have beaten them, and the League is at the top of their field. OTOH, if we're talking about a "Ready, FIGHT!" type of scenario, Silver and Gold all the way.
Re: Respect The Runner!
Originally posted by Laminator_X
The runner isn't just space warps. Prior to acquiring the Space Gem, his space warping was limited to giving him something to push his feet against that could react to the force he was exerting. Going through the motions of running is really just a ritual or mental exorcise the Flashes use to tap the Speed Force. Not so the Runner. He taps the raw Power Primordial to physically enhance and power his body. He reallly does just push himself along that fast. That's why he's such a hellacious hand to hand combatant. He has enough power coursing through his veins to accellerate like that and withstand those forces. What do you think he'd do with a punch?When he had the Space Gem, that's when he started warping bigtime, subconciously teleporting, arriving befire he left and all that sort of stuff. Without the Gem, most of that went away, but he can still warp space a lot more than he used too. It's after this period that he starts doing things like crossing the Universe in the bink of an eye and so forth. Prior to this it took him years to traverse such distances (i.e. the time from him sensing Moondragon's victory over the Dragon of the Moon to when they hooked up in New Defenders)
The other thing to keep in mind about the Runner, is that unlike most comic book tough guys, he doesn't usually hold back. Unlike Supers or whomever, he'll actually lead off with "appear out of nowhere and pummel you before you even percieve him." How many people can you name that have [b]humbled
both the Surfer and Thanos in single combat? Not many.Could Wally steal his speed? Possably, but I'm thinking Runner would overload him.
Mantis tripping him? Remember that that wasn't "Vietnamise Barmaid with Great Kung-Fu" Mantis. Mantis as the Celestial Madonna is a godlike power in her own right. The full extent of her abilities have never been defined.
The Runner isn't unbeatable, but he may as well be in physical combat. Thanos outsmarted him. Makkari beat him in a race once by discovering a new superspeed technique. Expect the Runner to win a rematch after he learns that method too.
Now, the League is a seriously resourceful bunch. With prep they could find a way to beat these two, especially with Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern in the mix. Others have beaten them, and the League is at the top of their field. OTOH, if we're talking about a "Ready, FIGHT!" type of scenario, Silver and Gold all the way. [/B]
I don't see the JLA putting a good fight at all
Runner can K.O any member within Seconds, his powers are too great
And then you have silver Surfer Bloodlust will take 2-3 dawgs himself
<<And no Superman and Flash won't touch him, no where near his speed , or power.
You logic is like this Leo
Here I can post you a scan of A slow poke punching Superman , then I can say Anyone can punch superman which is utter non sence>>
or my logic can simply be based on more than 'he beat ss so he must be the greatest being in all of marvel!'
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