Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
Sam, you saw what i said before, and if we are going to be honest, Unlimited should not exist, because we will never know how far infinite can stretch really, So rather than say it is unlimited (Which is the easier route yes) its easier to say the better thing, His strength gets as large as his temper does, damn i hate those words. Infinite and Unlimited, they seem pointless
I read your point. But i still don't see why there can't be "unlimited".
Well, may be we just have different views on everything.
Now let's get back to Wolvie.
quoted from wikipedia.. "Wolverine's claws and skeleton have been molecularly laced with the nigh-indestructible metal adamantium. The adamantium coating keeps the claws sharp and mean that his ability to cut through things is limited by his strength and not his claws. The tensile strength and additional weight of his skeleton combined with his constant cellular regeneration grants him great physical strength, which has been depicted with some degree of contradiction depending on the writer. His blows are weighted, similar to using brass knuckles, due to the presence of this metal."
this is very true if you think about it..
Originally posted by samishe
I read your point. But i still don't see why there can't be "unlimited".
Well, may be we just have different views on everything.
Now let's get back to Wolvie.
Hmmm...
If he truly has infinite strength then that means he would have to be at his infinite strength all the time.
For even 1% of infinity is still infinity. as is 2%, 3%, 4, 5% etc etc.
Infinity diveded by any number is infinity. And since he has failed to do some things that require strength, including ripping 616-Wolverine apart. one can conclude that while his maximum strength is unmeassured, it can not be infinite.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hmmm...If he truly has infinite strength then that means he would have to be at his infinite strength all the time.
For even 1% of infinity is still infinity. as is 2%, 3%, 4, 5% etc etc.
Infinity diveded by any number is infinity. And since he has failed to do some things that require strength, including ripping 616-Wolverine apart. one can conclude that while his maximum strength is unmeassured, it can not be infinite.
No in calm state he's only class 100. And whenever he fails to do some strength feats it means that he wasn't engry enough.
The way I see it Wolverine could probably lift half a ton.
peak human for marvel seems to be about 800 pounds, and without the adamantium, with the cellular regeneration and how one gets stronger by tearing the muscle he could certainly acheive the maximum potential for a human to acheive. Then with the added adamantium reenforcing his bones and joints, he could brace extra weigfht on the bones getting an additional 200 pounds.
Originally posted by samisheTranslation: I still can't grasp the concept that you're trying to teach me by trying to get me to think for myself about the subject rather than blindly swallowing hyperbole of the comic book.
It doesn't matter. Why do you try to find where infinity ends.
It's simply like that. He's very strong, then he gets stronger, and stronger.
Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, adamantium is not indestructable.
You give in to hyperbole too much.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Translation: I still can't grasp the concept that you're trying to teach me by trying to get me to think for myself about the subject rather than blindly swallowing hyperbole of the comic book.Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, adamantium is not indestructable.
You give in to hyperbole too much.
Yeah well, there is no infinity, there is nothing indestructable.
And Ryu from Street Fighter can shoot fire from his hands...
Who cares what's right in the real world. It's a comic book. Don't try to look smart.
....forget that topic...have you realised how many flaws there are in marvel itself .. wait lemme give you an example marvel.com says collosus is taller than hulk and juggernaut currently...how can that be.?..daredevil with his peak HUMAN strength has rolled over a LIMO without struggling. Namor given a strict class 85..strength has lifted a tanker weighing at least 50,000 tons MIN...nearly every single character has flaws like this.. i personally think marvel should copy DC and just state either superhuman..peakhuman. or VAST superhuman etc ...
Originally posted by dashabz
....forget that topic...have you realised how many flaws there are in marvel itself .. wait lemme give you an example marvel.com says collosus is taller than hulk and juggernaut currently...how can that be.?..daredevil with his peak HUMAN strength has rolled over a LIMO without struggling. Namor given a strict class 85..strength has lifted a tanker weighing at least 50,000 tons MIN...nearly every single character has flaws like this.. i personally think marvel should copy DC and just state either superhuman..peakhuman. or VAST superhuman etc ...
Good point.
no, not really a good point. Its true what you said though, but if they tried to make anything without a flaw that would be crap. So whenever someone needs to exert themselves and like hold a building on their shoulders because its falling down with people inside (like spidey did) then he would have to go..."oh no im only class 15 i cant do this, what a shame they would have to die" so some of the flaws are needed for the plot