Originally posted by demigawd
But my theory isn't how faster Flash can run to Xavier, it's how fast Flash can decide to run and punch Xavier compared to how fast Xavier and decide to mindblast Flash. It's my belief that the 30mps that Xavier's thought processes run is equal or nearly equal to the speed that Flash's thought processes run in a still state, based on the majority of his history.I'd feel better about your educated guess knowing that there are more examples of Flash mentally registering some event long before anyone else than not (essentially, his normal speed of thought being far greater than 30mps). There aren't. Or, at least, nobody has stepped forward with that information.
Ban anybody yet? Wolverine fanboys, I hope. 😉
Meaning that at some point you were IN the power-trip phase. 😛
Can Xavier keep up with someone who thinks this fast?
That power is granted to him via the speedforce. In order for him to use it, he has to retrieve the power from the speedforce. That means, at normal speeds, he accesses the speedforce, then goes through all the scenarios. It's similar to the scan where he brings other members of the JLA into the speedforce so they can think things through. It's a conscious action that actually adds an additional step to the overall process.
Originally posted by demigawd
That power is granted to him via the speedforce. In order for him to use it, he has to retrieve the power from the speedforce. That means, at normal speeds, he accesses the speedforce, then goes through all the scenarios. It's similar to the scan where he brings other members of the JLA into the speedforce so they can think things through. It's a conscious action that actually adds an additional step to the overall process.
We all know that, but wouldnt someone who thinks that fast mess with X's head? Trying to keep up with that would probably make his head explode.
Originally posted by demigawd
There was a debate awhile ago where it was revealed that Flash has to accelerate at a certain speed in order to access the speedforce. He can't just *poof* and do it. I think it was kgkg who mentioned this. True or no?Again, these are examples of him taking action at superspeeds. But what examples exist of him deciding to do something before anybody else? In the former example, Flash knew about the bomb, and at the time it started going off he took action. It's not really the same thing.
Increased Perceptions: The Flash possesses the ability to alter his perceptions so that falling objects can appear to be standing still and can be caught and moved back to their normal position. He can do this so quickly as to have it happen invisibly to the normal human eye. The Flash's reaction time is so increased as to perform feats of speed such as removing the momentum from bullets and fast moving objects thrown at him or at others.
Supercharged Brain Activity: The Flash's mental abilities are also increased in speed, simple computations can be done at lightning speeds, and his ability to perform normal feats at increased speeds has allow him to build hundreds of force field generators in a matter of hours, move sandbags to cover a beach or search an entire area for something as small as a paper clip. Wally can also read as superspeed, but rarely takes advantage of his ability to learn at increased speeds, although, Jay Garrick has done so and has become a jack of all trades in several disciplines and languages.
And this was before he achieved full control over his powers.
This is Wally with a costume made of Speed Force energy, used when his legs where injured and unavailable.
Originally posted by kgkgThat makes sense, actually I was trying to hit that nail on the head.
The main reason why flash gets "ambushed by explosions and knifed by something with Captain America-level reflexes " because the comic demands itHere I just bought 50 flash comic books and hey flash never gets hit. Boring Zzzzzzzzzz
It’s a comic book, its fact that any speeder gets tagged, but they have shown speed at times which makes it a contradiction.
And you are right about flash needing to accelerate to reach higher speed, he did that when he battle Grod.
He had to run far away to build momentum. Tho I heard he is one with the speed force now.
People kept saying he didn't have to accelerate, and that he went "instant" superspeed.
Yes demigawd, there IS a speed of thought in the forum rules.
And yes, I believe that flash still wins.
I'd feel better about your educated guess knowing that there are more examples of Flash mentally registering some event long before anyone else than not (essentially, his normal speed of thought being far greater than 30mps). There aren't. Or, at least, nobody has stepped forward with that information.
How about when Barry (standing in place, not having used his Flash-speed in a while) is said to have seen every single movement of Red Tornado spinning wildly (this was somewhere in the original "Crisis"😉. Or when Kid Flash owns Cyborg in a video game...the game is going the same speed for both of them, and Bart isn't running around wildly, but he manages to process everything and react with the controller buttons well before Cyborg.
Ban anybody yet? Wolverine fanboys, I hope. 😉
Sadly, no. I'm working on it though...but right now (until I take over all of KMC) fanboy-ism isn't a ban-able sin.
Meaning that at some point you were IN the power-trip phase. 😛
Hell yes! I tried to win the herald-level tourney by threatening bans. Unfortunately they realized I can't really do that...but it almost worked.
They're a mile from each other. They both know they're in a fight as soon as the light turns from red to green. They're both waiting for the light to turn green. Neither knows when the light will....THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN!
What happens?
All he has to do is to "brainwash" Flash before the light turns green - very secretly so that nobody notices - and to program Flashs brain in a way that Flash won't be able to hurt Xavier.
After that, when the actual fight begins, he can do with Flash whatever he wants to do (probably make him push his wheelchair).
Originally posted by who?-kidcheater... 😛Under these conditions, it will be easy for Xavier to win.
All he has to do is to "brainwash" Flash before the light turns green - very secretly so that nobody notices - and to program Flashs brain in a way that Flash won't be able to hurt Xavier.
After that, when the actual fight begins, he can do with Flash whatever he wants to do (probably make him push his wheelchair). [/B]