Originally posted by Deano
i knew what you meant
i just was baffled onto why you said it
i didnt figure you would be that stupid
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've stated your belief that powerful organisation/s control the world.
You post supposed evidence and information about said organisation/s, and yet manage to escape any consequences from doing so, as you are apparently alive.
I used a turn of phrase that adequately describes what you apparently do.
What part of that is so far beyond your level of comprehension that it baffles you?
I suppose past precedent in your posts explain why you find logical conclusions to be stupid. And frankly your in no position to be calling anyone that word.
like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out
Originally posted by Deano
like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out
i know you cant...but..
At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on. The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea. The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job. Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway. In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one!
We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe. These reports are blazed across the front pages of newspapers and the top of radio and television news bulletins throughout the world, and what they say becomes the 'norm', the official 'history'. In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away. Over and Over the establish and document the proof of how the official version was a lie from start to finish. But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires. Therefore, years after the official version has been demolished it still prevails in the public mind. Stop anyone in London, New York, Cape Town, Sydney, anywhere, and ask them what happened on September 11th, or in Oklahoma, the Second World War or Kosovo. Almost every time they'll give you the official story because that is the only one they have heard. If we had real mainstream journalism the problem-reaction-solution technique(see post below) could not work. The official version of events would be investigated and shown to have no foundation. This fact would be communicated to the people and the public reaction, desired by the authorities, would not be forthcoming. But instead, we have media that is little more than a public relations office for the official version of life and that makes problem-reaction-solution a breeze for the manipulators.
Problem reaction solution
It works like this: you know that if you openly propose to basic freedoms, start a war or centralise power, there will be a public reaction against it. So you don't openly and honestly propose such plans, you play the P-R-S scam. At stage one you create a problem. It could be a coup attacking another, a government or economic collapse, or a 'terrorist attack. Anything in fact that the public will think requires a 'solution'. At stage two, you report the 'problems' you have covertly created in the way you wish the people to perceive them. Crucially you find someone to blame for the problem, a 'patsy' like Lee Harvey Oswald when President Kennedy was assassinated, or Osama bin Laden. You spin the background to these events in a way that encouri1ges the people to demand that "something must be done". These are the words you want to hear because they allow you to move on to stage three, the sting. At this point you openly offer the solutions to the problems you have yourself created. These solutions, of course, involve the centralisation of power, the sacking of officials or politicians that are getting in your way, and the removal of more basic freedoms as you advance further to your global fascist state. Just think of the freedoms that have been removed because of 9/11.
With this technique you can so manipulate the public mind that people will demand or at least allow you to introduce what, in normal circumstances, they would vehemently oppose. The Oklahoma bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Building on April 19th 1995 was a problem-reaction-solution classic
The Illuminati control the world on a grand scale and engineer massive cover ups, yet you and your cohorts manage to find information on them and publish it for all to see and somehow manage to escape their notice. The two situations are not complementary.
If an organisation of this scale wanted to prevent information from surfacing and being published on a medium like the internet then they would do so with ease.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The Illuminati control the world on a grand scale and engineer massive cover ups, yet you and your cohorts manage to find information on them and publish it for all to see and somehow manage to escape their notice. The two situations are not complementary.
If an organisation of this scale wanted to prevent information from surfacing and being published on a medium like the internet then they would do so with ease.
i doubt it
millions of websites closed down? that would look fairly odd
read this and you can see how easy your question is about finding out info about the illuminati. i really think you need to do more research if youare interested, and then judge
Q: Hello, my name is [withheld] and I just read "The Secret Order of The Illuminati" by Wes Penre. It was a very good article and, in fact, I have no trouble believing it at all. But I was just wondering how exactly you/he got all this information. One part says "...no secrecy is kept forever, and sooner or later there will be leaks." Well, it seems like there must have been a LOT of leaks to somehow get all of that detailed information. Where did did you get all these facts? Do you really believe all of it? I guess my main question is just...how do you know that this is true? Please respond, I'm very interested in this subject. Thanks for your time.
A: I have researched this subject for more than a decade now, and I was once a high initiate in one of those secret societies myself, until I found out what it was really about. Since then I have taken the knowledge from there and continued my research, interviewed people involved, lived together with mind control survivors; I am also corresponding with people inside the Illuminati, Freemasonry and other occult Orders, who need to be anonymous, because they fear for their lives. Not EVERYBODY inside is bad. Some are trapped in there by oath or bloodline and can’t get out, but still leak information, because they want the truth to be known.
The rest is pretty obvious when we start looking at it. If you continue reading from my website, you will quite soon see how the pieces in the big puzzle fit together, and you will probably realize that there is not much of an alternative. It kind of explains most of what is going on in the world. I am definitely not sitting on THE WHOLE truth, but I know for sure that the overall picture is very accurate. There are still lots of pieces that are missing for me in this giant puzzle, and I make mistakes (which I am eager to correct when found or pointed out), but overall I am certain that the information is correct.
Deano> “At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on.”
How do YOU know this?
“The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea.”
How would high-level people know “it” if they’re not out in the field? And how do you know this?
“The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job.”
So – among the thousand of journalists not ONE is brave enough to want the truth out more than keeping his/her job? And EVERY editor in England is an Illuminati?? Every single one of them? How do you know this?
“Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway.”
How do you know this?
“In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one!”
How do you know this?
“We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe.”
How do you know this? How do you know that every single person in the White House, FBI, Pentagon etc. are “in” with the Illuminati? Watergate! The journalists were not assassinated, were they? The Illuminated couldn’t even keep something as “small” as Watergate from the press. How’d they keep something as government bombing from leaking??
“In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away.”
How do you know what the REAL TRUTH is?
“But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires.”
So, only smaller groups with less resources and money know the REAL truth? How do you know this?