Batman Vs Namor

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Your obviously uneducated on Batman.

Batman is a trained scientist, escape artist, detective and inventor.

Batman began his physical and mental conditioning when he was 11.
Began intense physical training and weight lifting at age 12.
Trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years.
Gained degrees in criminal science, forensics, computer science, chemistry and engineering by the time he was 16.
Became 2st and 3nd degree black belt in Karate, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido by the time he was 17.
Trained and became proficient with all small arms and basic vehicles operations.

By the time he was 18 he:

Studied commando style operations with small mercenary units.
Left US to further study martial arts under specialized masters.
Other skills: knife throwing, escrima, melee weapons mastery, body control
Other skills: disguise, diverse environmental training, combat driving, savate, kungfu
Other skills: security systems, illusion/sleight of hand, blind fighting

By the time he was 24 he had expanded his studies for more advanced:

forensic and medical sciences
expanded computer and engineering sciences
expanded disguise and weapon/device sciences
expand device pool, improve vehicle designs
use of personal powered armor and systems.
continual physical training in Batcave facility.
database creation on underworld crime bosses, rogue's gallery foes and other supers.
expanded melee weapon techniques
improved material sciences for body armor and micro-machinery

Bruce Wayne>>>>>>Tony Stark

Yet he still has time to fight crime? That's the biggest load of B.S. I've ever seen in my life. I like Batman, but I don't buy that at all.

orensic and medical sciences
expanded computer and engineering sciences
expanded disguise and weapon/device sciences

To get degrees in those would take him years upon years. Unless he's about 55 now, I'm not buying it. Batman Begins made it all plausible, but that just is ridiculous. I still say Tony is much smarter than Batman, mostly because he's got countermeasures for about anything, and has designed things that put Batman to shame.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
Well I don't think Batmans smarter, but he is either equal or not that far behide him.

Batman hasn't needed to creat time, dimenson or astral plan traveling things because he has a boom tube.

I don't see why he couldn't make something like that if he wanted too.

Ha, Boom Tube only teleports you anywhere in OUR dimension. Reed Richards has made teleporters that teleport interstellar distances while he's eating his breakfast.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Ha, Boom Tube only teleports you anywhere in OUR dimension. Reed Richards has made teleporters that teleport interstellar distances while he's eating his breakfast.

Well in Superman and Batman they were going to diffrent dimensions with it.

Batman built his own teleporter too.

Yeah, I have a comic book where Captain Atom uses the boom tube to go into the future to talk with an older Superman.

But the point is, Reed Richards has made inventions with his own hands that work in same way the Boom Tube. Hell, he even has a functioning time travel machine in his laboratory, where he has travelled through time multiple times (Johnny has misused it couple of times). I've never seen Batman himself make anything close to Reed Richard's best inventions. The most powerful things he has are the technology from New Gods.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But the point is, Reed Richards has made inventions with his own hands that work in same way the Boom Tube. Hell, he even has a functioning time travel machine in his laboratory, where he has travelled through time multiple times (Johnny has misused it couple of times). I've never seen Batman himself make anything close to Reed Richard's best inventions. The most powerful things he has are the technology from New Gods.

The point is that Batman is close enough to Reed's intellect so he could use is week of preperation time wisely enough to beat Namor.

Batman's a skyfather, skyfathers are above Namor, Batmanm wins.

Originally posted by batdude123
The point is that Batman is close enough to Reed's intellect so he could use is week of preperation time wisely enough to beat Namor.

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Reed is legitimately at the very minimum 2x as smart as Bruce... and Tony is just behind Reed and just ahead of Doom.

Namor kills Batman 100/100

Gotta go with Namor for the majority

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Reed is legitimately at the very minimum 2x as smart as Bruce... and Tony is just behind Reed and just ahead of Doom.

Namor kills Batman 100/100

🤨 Yeah, exactly, let's say that Batman's IQ based on all that he's done is a very high 180. And by your logic, Reed would have an IQ of 360! 🙄 😆

Originally posted by batdude123
🤨 Yeah, exactly, let's say that Batman's IQ based on all that he's done is a very high 180. And by your logic, Reed would have an IQ of 360!

You're saying that Batman is as smart as Reed? That's something that deserves a laughing face.
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Originally posted by DraconaInVolata
You're saying that Batman is as smart as Reed? That's something that deserves a laughing face.
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I never said that he was. I'm just saying that if say Batman had an IQ of 180, then by Tony Stark's logic, that would mean that Reed had an IQ of 360, which is impossible (unless your omnipresent). Anyway, all I'm simply stating is that Batman is close enough to Reed's intellect to take out Namor with a week of prep.

Originally posted by batdude123
I never said that he was. I'm just saying that if say Batman had an IQ of 180, then by Tony Stark's logic, that would mean that Reed had an IQ of 360, which is impossible (unless your omnipresent). Anyway, all I'm simply stating is that Batman is close enough to Reed's intellect to take out Namor with a week of prep.

lol

you are putting too much faith in IQ as a method of measuring int.

Originally posted by batdude123
Actually, Bruce Wayne is like DC's Reed Richards. Come to think of it, Batman was around like 22 years before the Fantastic Four. So actually, Reed Richards is like Marvel's Bruce Wayne.

😠 That's for showing me up.

Originally posted by inamilist
lol

you are putting too much faith in IQ as a method of measuring int.

Probably, but at the same time Reed isn't TWO times smarter than Batman. 😉

Originally posted by meep-meep
😠 That's for showing me up.

Sorry. 😮

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Ha, Boom Tube only teleports you anywhere in OUR dimension. Reed Richards has made teleporters that teleport interstellar distances while he's eating his breakfast.

Originally posted by Murda Mase
Well I don't think Batmans smarter, but he is either equal or not that far behide him.

Batman hasn't needed to creat time, dimenson or astral plan traveling things because he has a boom tube.

I don't see why he couldn't make something like that if he wanted too.

Why wouldn't he want to? I mean if he could wouldn't he construct a time machine to go back and save his parents? That's sort of the root of what led him to become what he is.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sorry. 😮

🙂 That's ok I forgive you....just don't let it happen again. glare

Originally posted by batdude123
Probably, but at the same time Reed isn't TWO times smarter than Batman. 😉

you are trying to split hairs and create a straw man argument

obviously he isnt 2 times smarter, because there is no measurably accurate way to quantify intelligence.

like, even IQ numbers are mearly guidelines, and there is no reason why someone with a 2383249857 iq couldnt be outsmarted by someone with a 105 iq.

is reed smarter than batman.... maybe.... what kind of smarts? ive never seen either of them paint anything that holds a candle to picaso... so are they both less intelligent than him?

Is Reed better at creating devices to alter the laws of physics? Yes
Does he make cooler gadgets? Probably

same deal with Iron Man. They are all "geniuses" and they all have their specialities. Has batman ever created things that can perform similarly to those created by reed and stark? of course

does he do it all the time? no
is it the "reson d'etre" of his character, much as it is with iron man or reed? nope

thats the important one. While batman can be as capable as them at creating new tech, he is more often shown not doing so. Where reed and stark invent new devices and contraptions to beet new foes, bruce uses his deductive and strategic thinking to get out of disasterous situations (as far as i know) where i think he would be more capable than IM or mr fantastic.

Intelligence isnt just "who can create the most cool stuff fastest" or who has the most institutionalized degrees, its something much more abstract, hence why trying to say X is this much smarter than Y is unimportant.