Batman Vs Namor

* To Thunderstrike: If you give Reed a week to prepare for fighting with Namor, than he'd probably create some type of machine that would turn his molecules into poop! There's no way Reed OR Batman would have any trouble with Namor with a week of prep. Like I've said before, Batman took down Solomon Grundy with just gas and the use of pressure points and Solomon Grundy even jumped him! Let alone giving Batman to prepare for a fight that would be so one-sided it would last all but a second. And as cheap as it may sound, he could easily pull out the motherbox and disable Namor with it, and he wouldn't even need a week of prep. Batman with prep knows every weakness and strength of the ENTIRE JLA team and could take all of them one on one because he has detailed files on how. Don't knock Batman or call him overrated, he's a freakin' genius and would SOUNDLY defeat Namor! Batman 9.5/10!

i agree. given all that prep and some of the tools bats as hanging around he would likely win this. things like microwave weapons have worked on namor in the past. with all the time and toys he has, those would be the very LEAST of the things in his arsenal.

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree. given all that prep and some of the tools bats as hanging around he would likely win this. things like microwave weapons have worked on namor in the past. with all the time and toys he has, those would be the very LEAST of the things in his arsenal.

Finally, someone who's thinking clearly. Thank you.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I was under the impression that boom tube tech was from the New Gods. When exactly did Batman invent that or am I missing something?

Your right, forget what I said about the boom tube.

Originally posted by batdude123
* To Thunderstrike: If you give Reed a week to prepare for fighting with Namor, than he'd probably create some type of machine that would turn his molecules into poop! There's no way Reed OR Batman would have any trouble with Namor with a week of prep. Like I've said before, Batman took down Solomon Grundy with just gas and the use of pressure points and Solomon Grundy even jumped him! Let alone giving Batman to prepare for a fight that would be so one-sided it would last all but a second. And as cheap as it may sound, he could easily pull out the motherbox and disable Namor with it, and he wouldn't even need a week of prep. Batman with prep knows every weakness and strength of the ENTIRE JLA team and could take all of them one on one because he has detailed files on how. Don't knock Batman or call him overrated, he's a freakin' genius and would SOUNDLY defeat Namor! Batman 9.5/10!

You're using instances of jobbing, and once again are comparing Reed Richards to Batman. Reed is much smarter than Batman, so don't get me started on that. Also, I am thinking clearly, so there's no point in taking this personally. Also, this isn't the JLA. This is Namor. No one in the JLA has the same powerset as Namor. Also, Batman doesn't have near the reaction time to actually hit Namor with anything he uses. Namor is a military strategist and good fighter with strength that is comparable to Hulk or Thor. Lemme guess. With prep he could take on Thor? Give me a break. The whole "He's Batman" argument doesn't hold much merit.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You're using instances of jobbing, and once again are comparing Reed Richards to Batman. Reed is much smarter than Batman, so don't get me started on that. Also, I am thinking clearly, so there's no point in taking this personally. Also, this isn't the JLA. This is Namor. No one in the JLA has the same powerset as Namor. Also, Batman doesn't have near the reaction time to actually hit Namor with anything he uses. Namor is a military strategist and good fighter with strength that is comparable to Hulk or Thor. Lemme guess. With prep he could take on Thor? Give me a break. The whole "He's Batman" argument doesn't hold much merit.

I never said or would say that he could beat Thor. You're making it seam like Namor is invincible. There are many different things that he could create (BECAUSE HE'S SMART ENOUGH) to disable Namor. To put it simply, all Batman would have to do is use one of his freeze capsules to freeze Namor, then he could throw an exploding batarang at him to blow him sky high. And your still not acknowledging the fact that Batman could win this fight in two seconds via the motherbox. He would use this with prep. Forget even being smart enough, he wouldn't even have to create a machine, he's already got the motherbox. And I'm not using the logic of "just because he's Batman" either. Batman wins this fight 9.5/10 times. I really don't even see how he could lose this fight with two weeks of prep time.

Because Namor can fly at Mach speeds, lift thousands of tons at once, and so forth. He has a plethora of powers, and there has been literally no prison cell that can hold the guy. Batman hitting him would be a joke. The only plausible way that Batman could win this is if he didn't show up at all, but rather sent a nuclear bomb in his stead. If he has one of those in his closet, then I would definately say that Batman with prep could defeat him. However, quite literally anything that Batman has thrown at people up to this point is beyond what Namor could get out of. Namor once said that only gods could defeat him. To be honest, that's a very accurate statement. Magneto had a hard time holding the guy down. Also, if you've read Illuminati, he dispatched Iron Man with ease, and Iron Man has a countermeasure to every Avenger member built into his armors. If Iron Man, with the years of being an ally to Namor, and developing countermeasures toward dozens of Avengers, including King Thor can't beat Namor, then what Batman's hope of defeating Namor.

Also, Batman's utility belt is nowhere near Iron Man's armor. Claiming that would be utterly ridiculous.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Also, if you've read Illuminati, he dispatched Iron Man with ease, and Iron Man has a countermeasure to every Avenger member built into his armors. If Iron Man, with the years of being an ally to Namor, and developing countermeasures toward dozens of Avengers, including King Thor can't beat Namor, then what Batman's hope of defeating Namor.

i did read that

he sucker punched him then tried to drown him

🙁

not much of a showing for iron man to be honest. Not to mention, are you saying RKT<Namor???

respect Namor and all, but like, we are talking about the living embodiment of PIS. Someone, who, given the right ammount of time can drop supes, who literally makes Namor look like a red headed step child.

It's not that Namor can't beat Batman. Hell, on his worst day with a broken arm and a head cold he could throw bats around like a rag doll.

What pre means in this case is that batman gets the ability to adapt a strategy to deal with one specific target. THAT is what Batman's intelligence is. No, its not making quantum destabalizers, or theorizing new interpretations of string mechanics. Its studying and overcomming.

Is it PIS that Batman can beat namor, hell yes

BUT

Prep = PIS

Originally posted by TheKahn
I was under the impression that boom tube tech was from the New Gods. When exactly did Batman invent that or am I missing something?

You are correct Sir...

The Batsupporters thought they could throw that one by...

And I say no Sir they did not...

Bats did NOT invent it.

😛

Originally posted by inamilist
i did read that

he sucker punched him then tried to drown him

🙁

not much of a showing for iron man to be honest. Not to mention, are you saying RKT<Namor???

respect Namor and all, but like, we are talking about the living embodiment of PIS. Someone, who, given the right ammount of time can drop supes, who literally makes Namor look like a red headed step child.

It's not that Namor can't beat Batman. Hell, on his worst day with a broken arm and a head cold he could throw bats around like a rag doll.

What pre means in this case is that batman gets the ability to adapt a strategy to deal with one specific target. THAT is what Batman's intelligence is. No, its not making quantum destabalizers, or theorizing new interpretations of string mechanics. Its studying and overcomming.

Is it PIS that Batman can beat namor, hell yes

BUT

Prep = PIS

I'm by no means saying Namor is above the Rune King. I'm just saying that Namor was too much for a man who was already prepared to fight him. Tony has known Namor for how long? He should have had that fight, but he got punked bad.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I'm by no means saying Namor is above the Rune King. I'm just saying that Namor was too much for a man who was already prepared to fight him. Tony has known Namor for how long? He should have had that fight, but he got punked bad.

i dont think tony was interested in fighting

i think iron man would put up a WAY better fight against Namor

imagine if he had studied for a week to ONLY defeat namor, there would be no doubts 😛

If he were ready for the battle for a whole week, then he would have done better, and he has beaten Namor before. However, Namor has defeated him more times than not.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Because Namor can fly at Mach speeds, lift thousands of tons at once, and so forth. He has a plethora of powers, and there has been literally no prison cell that can hold the guy. Batman hitting him would be a joke. The only plausible way that Batman could win this is if he didn't show up at all, but rather sent a nuclear bomb in his stead. If he has one of those in his closet, then I would definately say that Batman with prep could defeat him. However, quite literally anything that Batman has thrown at people up to this point is beyond what Namor could get out of. Namor once said that only gods could defeat him. To be honest, that's a very accurate statement. Magneto had a hard time holding the guy down. Also, if you've read Illuminati, he dispatched Iron Man with ease, and Iron Man has a countermeasure to every Avenger member built into his armors. If Iron Man, with the years of being an ally to Namor, and developing countermeasures toward dozens of Avengers, including King Thor can't beat Namor, then what Batman's hope of defeating Namor.

Also, Batman's utility belt is nowhere near Iron Man's armor. Claiming that would be utterly ridiculous.

When was the last time you saw Namor using Mach speeds during his fights? When Namor enters a fight he just goes to brawl with them. Say that during their encounter, Namor runs at Batman looking to punch him, all Batman would have to do is throw a freeze capsule at him and then throw an exploding batarang to finish him off. And that would be the absolute hardest Batman would have to work with a WEEK of prep. Plus, like I've said a million times, he could simply use the motherbox (which is DC's version of the ultimate nullifier) to take down Namor. Plus Batman has plenty of other resources that he could use without even trying to build a machine of some type; the Batmobile, the Batwing, the Batbot. Anyway, Batman was MANY options on how to take down Namor.

BTW, you're presenting very good arguements, keep it up! 😄

You know, namor can just thunderclap him and all those points are nullfied. He can even shoot him with an electrical charge to take him out.

Originally posted by inamilist
i dont think tony was interested in fighting

i think iron man would put up a WAY better fight against Namor

imagine if he had studied for a week to ONLY defeat namor, there would be no doubts 😛

90% of the fight was in the ocean... Namor is suposed to have the upper hand and he did. My bet is that Tony will come back to bite him in the series...

😈

There's one thing about those freeze capsules. They would have to freeze to the point of what Iceman can do, and I doubt they can, unless it's liquid nitrogen. As for Batbot, Batmobile, Batwing, or whatever, he'd tear them apart like aluminum foil. Like Sixth Winged said though, a Thunderclap is something that would F bats up royally.

When was the last time you saw Namor use a thunderclap? He never uses them, he just goes in for the fist fight.

Just because he hasn't used it for a while doesn't mean he's beyond it. Also, one hit from Namor is splat-fu.

BTW, you still haven't answered to the fact that Batman could end the fight in one second if he wanted to with the motherbox. Unless Namor is immune to that or something. 😆

What the heck can the motherbox do? Saying it's the DC version of this doesn't mean much. Sentry is the Marvel version of Superman, and it can be speculated that Sentry is more powerful.