Gladiator was confident against Cannonball. His confidence dropped when he saw he didn't do anything to Guthrie with his best punch as Gladiator said that himself. And what is with this confidence, I know Gladiator power relies also on that, but hey, everyone relis on that, everyone becomes weaker, normal human or mutant or Glads when you doubt in yourself. Your athletic abilties friezes and can never close reach level as if you are confident.
Magneto has a force Field and is way smarter then MM he is out classed so is Cap Magnetos powers and Intelligence is to much. Havok does no have to make a move till he see superman coming in and blasts the hell out of him his powers. They are incredible. Able to stop hulk. Cannonball has the powers to discourage Gladiator thats damn impressive from a lonely X-Man. Cannonball "Cannonball becomes virtually invulnerable. Accompanying the release of energy is a half-inch thick energy field which channels the explosion and protects his skin from the direct effects of the blast. It also negates momentum and related energy effects thereby cushioning his entire body from any impact up to a half-minute from the depletion of his energy. Not only is he protected from rough landings, but he is also protected from nearly all types of injury while in flight. The protective field also protects any person or object with which he is in physical contact".
Ugh. The result of this fight is obvious when you think about it. I'll start with the most useless, and work my way up.
Havok. If he can damage the Incredible Hulk, then he can damage any of those three. Only problem being Captain Marvel and Manhunter are too fast. But that can be overcome, but I'll get to that a bit later.
Cannonball. He took a confident hit from Gladiator so he can take hits from any of these guys. Enough said about this guy. Maybe I should switch him with Havok's spot though...not sure.
Magneto. Any time Magneto is in a fight with Superman, Superman will go down hard and easy. Magneto controls Superman's power source. He can multitask (Just so I don't hear any of that "How will he do that when he's trying to stop..." crap) so he can do that while protecting others with his forcefield or beating them down.
Magneto won't be taken down by Manhunter either. He has fought off both Xavier and Jean and the SAME TIME, and that's while fighting a group of heroes. I know the Martian is on a higher level than Xavier, but even he isn't as good as both of them. Not only that, Magneto disrupts the way psychic powers work. Manhunter is gonna have to rely on his strength in this fight. (But he can hold Supreman levels for a while...he is a cool guy.)
I don't know if Havok and Magneto can work like Magneto and Storm, but maybe Magneto could charge Havok up.
All in all, the only real threat here is Captain Marvel because Magneto can't directly screw with his powers. But maybe he could control his mind and turn him back into that little punk.
Whew. I thought this out, everything's good. I've ended the debate, I'm a hero! ...Yeah right....wishful thinking..=P
Edit: Just saw my post. Whoo! Longest post so far. 😎
Originally posted by Timslar
Ugh. The result of this fight is obvious when you think about it. I'll start with the most useless, and work my way up.Havok. If he can damage the Incredible Hulk, then he can damage any of those three. Only problem being Captain Marvel and Manhunter are too fast. But that can be overcome, but I'll get to that a bit later.
Cannonball. He took a confident hit from Gladiator so he can take hits from any of these guys. Enough said about this guy. Maybe I should switch him with Havok's spot though...not sure.
Magneto. Any time Magneto is in a fight with Superman, Superman will go down hard and easy. Magneto controls Superman's power source. He can multitask (Just so I don't hear any of that "How will he do that when he's trying to stop..." crap) so he can do that while protecting others with his forcefield or beating them down.
Magneto won't be taken down by Manhunter either. He has fought off both Xavier and Jean and the SAME TIME, and that's while fighting a group of heroes. I know the Martian is on a higher level than Xavier, but even he isn't as good as both of them. Not only that, Magneto disrupts the way psychic powers work. Manhunter is gonna have to rely on his strength in this fight. (But he can hold Supreman levels for a while...he is a cool guy.)
I don't know if Havok and Magneto can work like Magneto and Storm, but maybe Magneto could charge Havok up.
All in all, the only real threat here is Captain Marvel because Magneto can't directly screw with his powers. But maybe he could control his mind and turn him back into that little punk.
Whew. I thought this out, everything's good. I've ended the debate, I'm a hero! ...Yeah right....wishful thinking..=P
Edit: Just saw my post. Whoo! Longest post so far. 😎
Originally posted by golem370Superman beats them before they can even think to summon their powers, read the forum rules. Superman is millions of times faster than thought is.
Magneto has a force field Superman has no powers besides strength to match with Havok or Magneto and Cannonball is virtually invulnerable
Did you not read that?
Originally posted by K3VIL
Superman can dodge anything Havok throw at him and reduce him to ashes with Heat Vision.
Strike 1.
The Fury physically hurted Cannonball, making him losing concentration and making his energy field dropping, same can do Supes, pummeling him until it's too much for him and knock him unconscious.
Manhunter is Martian Manhunter?
Cause if it's so, MM can just phase invisible and then blast Magneto with Martian Vision in the head, while CM keep him busy.
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The pro DC arguments r pretty bias...I mean it is true that Superman is really fast but if he speed blitzed everyone in each of his fights theoretically he would have beat 99% of DC's villains in less than second by now. Regardless, in the presence of Magneto Superman would just be a regular guy...That is undeniable...And unlike SM or MM Magneto is a true genius and does analyze every aspect of the battlefield before most people get a chance...He would be very dominant in this scenerio.
Originally posted by Wynndar
The pro DC arguments r pretty bias...I mean it is true that Superman is really fast but if he speed blitzed everyone in each of his fights theoretically he would have beat 99% of DC's villains in less than second by now. Regardless, in the presence of Magneto Superman would just be a regular guy...That is undeniable...And unlike SM or MM Magneto is a true genius and does analyze every aspect of the battlefield before most people get a chance...He would be very dominant in this scenerio.
They are no more bias than the ridiculous arguments I've seen towards any other characters here. I mean if we truly bloodlusted supes alone would be flying to the sun faster than light while heat visioning it to ashes from across the galaxy or just flying through it destroying it..moving it killing mostly everyone....ridiculous feats for any character. (Not just supes)
Isnt that spiderman vs batman thread still going? I think thats the worst one.