The source + TOAA versus Phoenix force

Started by Whirlysplatt20 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
Phoenix 2 was the sentient energy being that assumed Jean Grey's identity and later became Dark Phoenix.

Phoenix 4 is Jean grey who was Marvel Girl that is the phoenix of the white crown.

That's the problem, Phoenix 2 was calling itself the Phoenix force as well. . .

yup it is certainly one of them?

Show me where it says Phoenix is TOAA or Gods power

You can't and we both know it GS.

Originally posted by wannabe
#1) The Phoenixforce is shapeless and not an entity. This energy does not need a shape to bring a universe into another cycle...which is a natural process.
The avatars are there only to correct, eliminate or recreate something that has gone wrong!
Combining both facts you will certainly have no Phoenix-bird hovering over the last big bang of 616.

#2)What did you want to prove in your "case" with the Endsong story?🤨

Good point it said nothing about Phoenix ending or starting the Universe niether did the handbook scan of Galactus GS put up it only said it filled the egg, so your saying GS is wrong and it doesn't end or start universes. It only repairs them 🙂 Its like the cosmic plumber🙂 Phoenix Mario.

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
yup it is certainly one of them?

Show me where it says Phoenix is TOAA or Gods power

You can't and we both know it GS.

Did you just call me GS? 🤨 While I appreciate it as a compliment of extra knowledge in subjects I'm not as familar with. . .😑

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did you just call me GS? 🤨 While I appreciate it as a compliment of extra knowledge in subjects I'm not as familar with. . .😑

No, read it again Cresh, two seperate sentences one to you and one to GS

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Good point it said nothing about Phoenix ending or starting the Universe niether did the handbook scan of Galactus GS put up it only said it filled the egg, so your saying GS is wrong and it doesn't end or start universes. It only repairs them 🙂 Its like the cosmic plumber🙂 Phoenix Mario.

Of course it didnt say that stuff because it was Galactus' origin. Why is it going to talk in detail about what Phoenix was up to?

That was posted to prove phoenix was responsible for his creation and that only. Dont try and make it out as insufficient evidence just because you were proved wrong

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Of course it didnt say that stuff because it was Galactus' origin. Why is it going to talk in detail about what Phoenix was up to?

That was posted to prove phoenix was responsible for his creation and that only. Dont try and make it out as insufficient evidence just because you were proved wrong

You have still proved nothing, all it said is that universes Phoenix Force filled Galactuses egg, he therefore is an amlgam of "that" Phoenix Force and his Celestial powers. It even implies more than one Phoenix force. read its exact phrase. 😄

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
You have still proved nothing, all it said is that universes Phoenix Force filled Galactuses egg, he therefore is an amlgam of "that" Phoenix Force and his Celestial powers. It even implies more than one Phoenix force. read its exact phrase. 😄

Your understanding and interpretation are awful. I expect better from you of all people. It says that Phoenix force saved him and brought him to the cosmic egg. The cosmic egg being the collapsed old eternity. So Phoenix saved him and brought him to egg where he was bonded with the essence of Eternity.

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That last comment is cryptic who knows what the hell that meant 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your understanding and interpretation are awful. I expect better from you of all people. It says that Phoenix force saved him and brought him to the cosmic egg. The cosmic egg being the collapsed old eternity. So Phoenix saved him and brought him to egg where he was bonded with the essence of Eternity.

🙄

That last comment is cryptic who knows what the hell that meant 😂

It said the energy of "that" universe filled his egg, it also says nothing about Phoenix having a role in the destruction of that universe or the creation of another. Interpretation again your seeing what you wish to see. You have "proved" nothing. 🙂

Wait if the phoenix forces are localized. . . and 616 did comer from a dead one, and galactus is the sole survivor. . . How would "that" phoenix force have filled his egg with energy. . . how can he be the sole survivor if the phoenix force survived. . . unless the phoenix force was outside of the universe. . .

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
It said the energy of "that" universe filled his egg, it also says nothing about Phoenix having a role in the destruction of that universe or the creation of another. Interpretation again your seeing what you wish to see. You have "proved" nothing. 🙂

As i said previously you doubted Phoenixes involvement in Galactus' creation. I then came up with the proof and proved you wrong. Instead of admitting this like a man should you keep saying that scan proved nothing as if it was supposed to prove something else. Cowardly Whirly. 😂 Be a man and accept when youre wrong. 😮

The scan says Galactus was filled with the energy the radiation being given off by the egg, it was killing all of those around him but Phoenix saved him and he was bonded with the egg. Get it right old chap.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said previously you doubted Phoenixes involvement in Galactus' creation. I then came up with the proof and proved you wrong. Instead of admitting this like a man should you keep saying that scan proved nothing as if it was supposed to prove something else. Cowardly Whirly. 😂 Be a man and accept when youre wrong. 😮

The scan says Galactus was filled with the energy the radiation being given off by the egg, it was killing all of those around him but Phoenix saved him and he was bonded with the egg. Get it right old chap.

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I doubt your Phoennix it says the Phoenix force of the dying universe in the Galactus one shot he bonded with a source of energy in his egg was that the whole Phoenix Force of that Universe? 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I doubt your Phoennix it says the Phoenix force of the dying universe in the Galactus one shot he bonded with a source of energy in his egg was that the whole Phoenix Force of that Universe? 🙂

Stop being silly old chap. Phoenix is Phoenix. You doubted the forces involvement. I went on to enlighten you. Forget the Galactus one shot that itself retconned a previous Galactus origin. The one shot has been scrapped it is no longer current continuity so dont worry yourself with it. I have provided you with Galactus new origin read and remember it. 😮 😛

It says "that" universes, your the only one who says Phoenix is Phoenix GS 🙂

What is phoenix if phoenix is not phoenix?

That's why we number these *********s. . .

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
It says "that" universes, your the only one who says Phoenix is Phoenix GS 🙂

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Then that would mean another Phoenix force would have had to be created since Galan was the sole survivor. . .

But now we see phoenix hosts existing outside of 616 commenting on different universes.

Maybe the "phoenix force" iof the dying universe was a host?

Good post Cresh. If you read Xmen Forever you'll see that every creation cycle humanity evolves to a point where they surpass and replace the abstracts and Galactus. The abstracts are the old universes evolved humanity. The phoenix probably was an avatar.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
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Originally posted by Creshosk
Then that would mean another Phoenix force would have had to be created since Galan was the sole survivor. . .

But now we see phoenix hosts existing outside of 616 commenting on different universes.

Maybe the "phoenix force" iof the dying universe was a host?

Good post Cresh. If you read Xmen Forever you'll see that every creation cycle humanity evolves to a point where they surpass and replace the abstracts and Galactus. The abstracts are the old universes evolved humanity. The phoenix probably was an avatar.

Ahh the omega theory again 😂

circular you repeating youself and proving nothing still goodnight enjoy egypt 🙂

Post the scan when you get back to college if you can 😂

Somehow I doubt it 🙂

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Ahh the omega theory again 😂

circular you repeating youself and proving nothing still goodnight enjoy egypt 🙂

Post the scan when you get back to college if you can 😂

Somehow I doubt it 🙂

Thats actually stated in the comics. Ask KG if you wish he's read it and would back me up 😄

say what?

What about PF

And ya I do agree that PF is the source of creation a spark.

Though a Force that created the Multiverse ( no evidence) to back that.

PF is a force = Big Bang, and possible other universes though something this theory deferrer from other ones.

galactic storm i have never even seen a WOMAN as full of herself as you are. its like your brain only processes the info it wants to and the way it wants to, and always tells you, YOUR THE BEST, THEYVE GOT IT WRONG and DONT LISTEN CAUSE YOU CAN NEVER EVER BE EVEN A BIT OFF, you are a hopeless case im afraid.

{just curious, but are you married? cause i doubt any woman in the world could stay more than a minnute with a person as full of himself as you are}