Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂
Go Team Denial!!!! 💃
Clutch on to that glory mate. 😆
Originally posted by leonidasNo, he seems to be arguing for the sake of arguing. 😑
i think it would be very easy to get whirly onto team phoenix, gs and you could do it in only a couple words: just tell him in what issue he can find the word GOD in connection with the phoenix force.would that pretty much do it, whirly?
After all if my post was not what he was referine to then why respond at all since he was the last one to post before me. If it was in response to mine. . . what the hell does that post have to do with mine? 🤪
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Go Team Denial!!!! 💃Clutch on to that glory mate. 😆
😄 I rest my case
Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂 and therefore it is valid for people to question it and critically examine it.
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Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
😄 I rest my caseBased on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition🙂 and therefore it is valid for people to question it and critically examine it.
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
blah blah blah 😂
again
I rest my case
Based on your interpretation, you have proven nothing, its not really even about a scan, with any story unless its stated its interpretation. Your interpretaion is not the same as all others on this forum, that means yours is not the definitive position. Its not about me being right or you being wrong its the debate, your position is based on supposition and therefore it is valid for people to question it and critically examine it.
Originally posted by leonidasVery Whirly. 🤪
<<No, he seems to be arguing for the sake of arguing.After all if my post was not what he was referine to then why respond at all since he was the last one to post before me. If it was in response to mine. . . what the hell does that post have to do with mine? >>
just keeping it whirly?
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Personally I think that 🤪 looks more confused than 😕. . .
You know like trying to follow somethign that was whirling around and got dizzy.
Now if there was a tongue then 🤪 would look wacko.
Originally posted by leonidas
i think it would be very easy to get whirly onto team phoenix, gs and you could do it in only a couple words: just tell him in what issue he can find the word GOD in connection with the phoenix force.would that pretty much do it, whirly?
Originally posted by wannabeWe basically have to find what some of the things are based on.
There will be no such comic, cause Marvel cleverly avoids being too explicid when it comes to the monotheistic religions and so avoids offending any religious readers.
But they do give us hints and disguised statements, some more, some less sophisticated...we just have to discover them! 📖
The rest is interpretation and deduction.😖mart:
As was pointed out with the crown references in the kabballah. . .
and that who Omega level- omega point thing. . .
And also another source not yt mentioned, but I'm still interpreting the data on that one. . .
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Yes it would indeed 🙂
If thats the case then why would you not accept the fact that Jean is referred to as Tiphereth in Uncanny Xmen 107 and 135 and even Endsong 5 or the fact that New Xmen 154 shows her power derives from the Crown. Which by definition is the place where Gods consciousness resides. Funnily enough 151 to 154 state thats where the phoenix consciousness lies as well. Hmmm Later on that issue when Jean is in the crown she and the other phoenixes from across the multiverse are directed by an unseen voice. Hmmmmmm
Type in tiphereth in wikipedia visit its non jewish associations and up pops phoenix.
Look up definitions of the Crown and you see its the gate between god and the human consciousness. The consciousness that directs the phoenixes in the crown acesses the avatars through their consciousness as stated in 154.
The colour that represents God and the Crown by definition is white. Jean in the comics is The White Phoenix of Crown.
"""""""""""""The Divine name of Keter is Eheieh (I Am) which is rendered as Pure Being,or Presence.The
Archangel of Keter is Metatron (known as The Great Angel of the Presence),head of the highest Order of Angels,the Choir of Seraphim.[The Seraphim (from Seraph=consume with fire) are the angels closest to God,but also those sent to cleanse the creation with the fire of purification,to burn away false doctrine""""""""""""""""""
Seraphs are traditionally depicted as beling fire emblazoned humans with wings. Jean and her phoenix signature fits in just fine.
Jean in New Xmen 128 says she is here to perform a "destined disinfection" of the planet. That is why her phoenix powers were manifesting again. In #150 she tells Logan she has a job to do and she doesnt know how long she would be able to stay in his plane of reality. More evidence that shes working for a higher power. In issues 151 to 154 she performs the disinfection of the planet before returning to the White Hot room where she converses with a higher consciouness.
The evidence is stacked up. Jean works for the supreme being and she is a peer of LT.
Xmen Forever shows that whilst Lt falls victim to the cycle of creation Jean is a constant. Forever steering evolution towards the crown, the omega point. Big bang after big bang. Lt and the abstracts say thats a part of the natural order. The natural order that LT serves. What does that tell you?
Originally posted by wannabe
There will be no such comic, cause Marvel cleverly avoids being too explicid when it comes to the monotheistic religions and so avoids offending any religious readers.
But they do give us hints and disguised statements, some more, some less sophisticated...we just have to discover them! 📖
The rest is interpretation and deduction.😖mart:
And assumption, don't forget assumption.
Its all open to interpretation and I agree, GS seems to feel only one interpretation is possible like many fundamentalists.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's hard to ignore the conclusions drawn when there is so much parrellel
Thats GS's interpretation in his essay
But nowhere does it say God? and thats the point.........
We have had Entropy create the Universe
In the origin of Galactus one shot we saw him survive the death of his Universe and the new one created witout Phoenix.
Interpretation, poor continuity, assumption 🙂
Originally posted by WhirlysplattYou just missed the latest one didn't you?
Thats GS's interpretation in his essayBut nowhere does it say God? and thats the point.........
We have had Entropy create the Universe
In the origin of Galactus one shot we saw him survive the death of his Universe and the new one created witout Phoenix.Interpretation, poor continuity, assumption 🙂
As I said, it's hard to ignore the conclusion when there is so much parrelel.
Also those that you mentioned are universes.
Something else odd is that there is/are galactuses in other universes, that do not act as our galactus does. . . So him originating from a single universe is sort of confusing. . . because if he's not from 616, then is there a 616 galactus and whatever galactus the one that escaped from his universe as well?
If so, have they ever met?