Originally posted by Metalmanx
We're on the same side. I believe the X-men would win. But you're over-hyping Storm again.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
✅ I agree the X-Men have what it takes to win too, but Metalmanx is right, stormfront, you are overhyping Storm again. The other thing she forced a pressure dome through the thin wall of a collapsing hollowed out mountain. You say "which has busted through mountains" as if she flies through solid mountains.
k, first of all i never said she did it easily. zahit was doubting her ability to do anything like it. I gave the example of her doing it, but I never said she did it easily. and X, I don't think I should have to explain everything I say in excact detail. what happened was she did take her teammates through a mountain in a pressure field. anyway, the x-men win this easy
Originally posted by stormfront13
k, first of all i never said she did it easily. zahit was doubting her ability to do anything like it. I gave the example of her doing it, but I never said she did it easily. and X, I don't think I should have to explain everything I say in excact detail. what happened was she did take her teammates through a mountain in a pressure field. anyway, the x-men win this easy
Originally posted by Pointinel
just to make sure everyone knows....
if we talking bout SALES.... FF aint touching the X.
TRUTH.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You tend to omit detail and hyperbolize.
nobody's perfect. I don't feel the need to include every litle detail because I don't feel it's necessary. if she went through a mountain in the comic, then what's wrong with saying she did? nd I don't exxagerate that much. everything I have said about storm is true. don't blame me for her power levels, blame the writers.
Originally posted by 8bitChris
He's talkin bout sales like all em rappers do.Nobody aint got nuttin on 50 cent cuz dat guy gets mad sales. Illest rapper in history. Only people doper than him are Britney Spears and 'N Sync. Cuz they sell more records.
(Making the whole sales does not = good point.)
nah that's not what i meant.... and fuq 50! LOL
but it is true... ill bet x-men #1 sold more copies than FF during 04-05
Yea i dont know what the sales has to do with anything, except that modern X-Men has been a pop culture icon for the 15 years or so. They have strong sales to a wide range of ages too.
Stormfront, how would the X-Men easily beat the FF? I dont think you're considering this match up with much depth. Power alone isnt going to decide this outcome. The FF routinely face uber powerful confrontations. The X-men have trouble with the brotherhood. Every other issue of FF has a celestial or Eternity or Galactus. Every other issue of X-Men shows them having trouble with the Morlocks? Mystique? ...Toad?
I have to say that X-Men is a great book right now. X-Men and FF have been great at developing the characters and the plot. I mean in the last five issues neither book has had much action or fighting...especially in FF. The writers are really developing the stories. A stark difference from JLA.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Stormfront, how would the X-Men easily beat the FF? I dont think you're considering this match up with much depth. Power alone isnt going to decide this outcome. The FF routinely face uber powerful confrontations. The X-men have trouble with the brotherhood. Every other issue of FF has a celestial or Eternity or Galactus. Every other issue of X-Men shows them having trouble with the Morlocks? Mystique? ...Toad?
look, I know you are a fan of the fantastic four, but let's be reasonable........ they win easy. telepathy moves at the speed of thought, so it would move faster than sue can put up a shield. she is taken out the first second. nightcrawler teleports off ben's head and arms. rachel takes johnny, while the rest finish off reed. the only reason that the x-men have trouble with the brotherhood is to have a good story-line. and to say that every other issue has them fighting the morlocks ad toad, this means you obviously know nothing of the x-men. the morlocks are in africa and have been for some time, and toad hasn't fought the x-men in a while.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Yea i dont know what the sales has to do with anything, except that modern X-Men has been a pop culture icon for the 15 years or so. They have strong sales to a wide range of ages too.Stormfront, how would the X-Men easily beat the FF? I dont think you're considering this match up with much depth. Power alone isnt going to decide this outcome. The FF routinely face uber powerful confrontations. The X-men have trouble with the brotherhood. Every other issue of FF has a celestial or Eternity or Galactus. Every other issue of X-Men shows them having trouble with the Morlocks? Mystique? ...Toad?
I have to say that X-Men is a great book right now. X-Men and FF have been great at developing the characters and the plot. I mean in the last five issues neither book has had much action or fighting...especially in FF. The writers are really developing the stories. A stark difference from JLA.
Bloodlusted? Could go either way..Does anyone know what a bloodlusted Sue can do? Anyone heard of Malice? Malice is an evil incarnation of Sue..and damb powerful at that.
Could all of the X-men dodge a hundred force daggers thrown at them at once? Or how about if all of them had a force bubbles surrounding their heads cutting off all of their oxygen..or how about a force bubble on the inside of their bodies, that gradually expands and blows up their bodies...
And lest us not forget Johnny.."bloodlusted" Johnny to me = Supernova from the start...Most of the damb X-Team are dead if he turns the heat to Nova...Sue puts up a shield to protect the FF from the Nova attack....and that's it..X-men are done..well done....
So anyway..FF takes this..
Originally posted by stormfront13
look, I know you are a fan of the fantastic four, but let's be reasonable........ they win easy. telepathy moves at the speed of thought, so it would move faster than sue can put up a shield. she is taken out the first second. nightcrawler teleports off ben's head and arms. rachel takes johnny, while the rest finish off reed. the only reason that the x-men have trouble with the brotherhood is to have a good story-line. and to say that every other issue has them fighting the morlocks ad toad, this means you obviously know nothing of the x-men. the morlocks are in africa and have been for some time, and toad hasn't fought the x-men in a while.
Did u even read X4? Sue takes down emma with her field and then says, "I guess ur powers rnt the only ones that operate at the speed of thought"...why did Sue win? because she's been fighting longer and harder and is a better warrior than Emma who really isnt anything but an administrator taking care of children. I know Im a fan of the FF but at least Im backing up my argument with events out of comic books...ur argument is just backed up with ur bias opinion.
Originally posted by wannabe
I agree with you, but you should understand, that being able to fight a cosmic being is not at all a guarantee to win a brawl!
In all the fights against those uber powerful beings, the FF had the time to analyze the situation, check their equipment, develop some countertechnology etc.!
They won't have that time in a fight like this. It's power v. power, fast action v. faster reaction!
And since Reed is a science super genius but not a super tactician, his brains won't do him any good...at least not as much as usual!
And the FF dont brawl? How many times have they fought the frightful four, or teams assembled by Doom? Or Skrulls? Or heralds? How many brawls do the Individual FF memebers get into? Thing Brawls the Hulk, Terrax, Occulus, Wrecker, Devos, Paibok, Blackbolt, Namor, etc. None of the X-Men r packing that kind of power. Reed brawls Doom, Namor, Crucible, Superior to X-Men too. The Torch fought Paibok, Devos, and Lyja all at the same time and went Nova on them and they were running for the hills. That is more power than that whole X-team is working with. I dont even have to talk about IW cuz she can already beat the X-Men on her own...she's already prved to be faster than Emma and she is waaaaaay more powerful. Capable of killing that whole team instantly. Reed is the bets leader in Marvel second only to Cap and Cap still has to defer to Reed concerning strategy involving opponents on the Cosmic or super technological scale.