Originally posted by Zahit
they took out Terminus without prep.
Reed affixed a newly discovered device of his to Terminus' head. This acceleration device sent Terminus off at an instant velocity of some 20, 000 mph against the direction of the Earth through space, sending him to the very core of the Earth.
Gadget.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Reed affixed a newly discovered device of his to Terminus' head. This acceleration device sent Terminus off at an instant velocity of some 20, 000 mph against the direction of the Earth through space, sending him to the very core of the Earth.Gadget.
Yea you've obviously read it. U did conveniently leave outt he fact that the gadget was improvised from some parts of his little fantasticar. HE beat Terminus by himself...with parts off the Fantsticar? Reed, by himself, beat Terminus more efficiently than the Avengers, or the JLA. That is saying something. Saying Reed cant improvise a tech weapin against an enemy is like saying Ironman can't fight with his armor. Its out of character, Reed can improvise something in any situation, demonstrated with him and Terminus out in the desert. When Hyperstorm left him in the dark ages of an alternate timeline it didnt stop him from creating tech. When Kang's son left him and the FF Marooned in the ancient Egyptian desert it didnt stop them either.
Why are people trying to slant these threads in a way to put the FF at a disadvantage? X-Men cant win any other way?
Originally posted by Wynndar
Yea you've obviously read it. U did conveniently leave outt he fact that the gadget was improvised from some parts of his little fantasticar. HE beat Terminus by himself...with parts off the Fantsticar? Reed, by himself, beat Terminus more efficiently than the Avengers, or the JLA. That is saying something. Saying Reed cant improvise a tech weapin against an enemy is like saying Ironman can't fight with his armor. Its out of character, Reed can improvise something in any situation, demonstrated with him and Terminus out in the desert. When Hyperstorm left him in the dark ages of an alternate timeline it didnt stop him from creating tech. When Kang's son left him and the FF Marooned in the ancient Egyptian desert it didnt stop them either.Why are people trying to slant these threads in a way to put the FF at a disadvantage? X-Men cant win any other way?
You're overlooking the fact that in this thread it was stated theat the enviornment is featureless, and there is no outside influence.
No fantasticar, no spare parts, and no gadgets.
Well this makes for a really uninteresting battle and thread then, if thats the case. Essentially the pro-FF people are just going to argue with the pro-X-Men people over who is going to be quickest to the draw: A bloodlusting Malice like character who's exploding the heads of the X-men and impaling them on invisible pikes and a nova blasting Torch, or the heavy hitters hitters from this X-team. Although Im not sure they're going with the X-team...is it presumed that Psylock would hit the entire up the entire FF with her TP? I cant really see that happening.
But do u see my point? If those are the perameters, it doesnt matter who's on the teams. Guys like Wolverine and Thing are kinda irrelavant because Wolverine is either getting incinerated or the Thing is getting mind controlled. So the whole fight essentially hinges on two characters. Draco even admitted he was trying produce a scenerio that would give the X-Men anadvantage. But if the only thing we can debate is: who single handendly takes down the opposing team first, IW or One of the X-Men, then it doesnt really make for a good debate.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Yea you've obviously read it. U did conveniently leave outt he fact that the gadget was improvised from some parts of his little fantasticar. HE beat Terminus by himself...with parts off the Fantsticar? Reed, by himself, beat Terminus more efficiently than the Avengers, or the JLA. That is saying something. Saying Reed cant improvise a tech weapin against an enemy is like saying Ironman can't fight with his armor. Its out of character, Reed can improvise something in any situation, demonstrated with him and Terminus out in the desert. When Hyperstorm left him in the dark ages of an alternate timeline it didnt stop him from creating tech. When Kang's son left him and the FF Marooned in the ancient Egyptian desert it didnt stop them either.Why are people trying to slant these threads in a way to put the FF at a disadvantage? X-Men cant win any other way?
I don't say that the FF can't win at all...the odds are just severely in favour for the X-Men.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Wannabe, can you cite some examples of the FF fighting teams or groups of individuals?
Originally posted by WynndarNo, it's not.
Well this makes for a really uninteresting battle and thread then, if thats the case. Essentially the pro-FF people are just going to argue with the pro-X-Men people over who is going to be quickest to the draw: A bloodlusting Malice like character who's exploding the heads of the X-men and impaling them on invisible pikes and a nova blasting Torch, or the heavy hitters hitters from this X-team. Although Im not sure they're going with the X-team...is it presumed that Psylock would hit the entire up the entire FF with her TP? I cant really see that happening.But do u see my point? If those are the perameters, it doesnt matter who's on the teams. Guys like Wolverine and Thing are kinda irrelavant because Wolverine is either getting incinerated or the Thing is getting mind controlled. So the whole fight essentially hinges on two characters. Draco even admitted he was trying produce a scenerio that would give the X-Men anadvantage. But if the only thing we can debate is: who single handendly takes down the opposing team first, IW or One of the X-Men, then it doesnt really make for a good debate.
One on one same type battles are usually more interesting, than teams that can deal with a large variety of different situations versus teams that deal with a large variety of situations. Unless they are similar enough.
A good deal of the characters mentioned are nonfactors, so it comes down to a few like you said, and like you said is an uninteresting debate.
Originally posted by wannabe
Ohh, i know they did (Fearsome Four and others) BUT each time the opponents were so DULL to ignore Reed just long enough for him to construct something or the FF didn't have such an easy fight at all!
Either way...i guess you got what i wanted to express?!
No, I just wanted to see if you've read any FF comics or fights against teams...Cuz u sound kinda uninformed.
Originally posted by wannabe
Since Nightcrawler does not teleport directly but through the brimstone dimension, Sue Shields wont do her any good.
Rachel or Betsy could shield the X-Men from a novablast, after which Johnny would be down...all X-Men standing, one of the FF down!