Since WW2, over the years Fury started losing sight in his eye. Its not like he just got the handicap. If he and Punisher were to fight the week after Fury completely losing his eye, then Punisher would indeed have something to exploit. Its not the case now and Punisher would know that. Considering he knows about Fury. If he didnt know him Punisher says to himself....
"This one-eyed joke thinks he can stand in my way?" "An easy victory for me. Yesss!"
Then gets his ass handed to him.
well, according to the marvel power grids, both are level 6 fighters. they have identical stats except that pun's intelligence is 2, fury's is 3. as far as handicaps, stick is blind and would kill both of these guys in h2h fights. fury's had the impairment for 50 years. the body adapts to impairments in many ways. to achieve level 6 fighter, i'd say his body likely adapted to it's problem pretty well. even fighters, fury is smarter. like jrod, i give the majority to fury. 6/10
Originally posted by leonidas
well, according to the marvel power grids, both are level 6 fighters. they have identical stats except that pun's intelligence is 2, fury's is 3. as far as handicaps, stick is blind and would kill both of these guys in h2h fights. fury's had the impairment for 50 years. the body adapts to impairments in many ways. to achieve level 6 fighter, i'd say his body likely adapted to it's problem pretty well. even fighters, fury is smarter. like jrod, i give the majority to fury. 6/10
but stick has adapted because he's completely blind.... fury's other senses can only adapt so much when he still relies on eyesight...
But Fury's body has adapted completely to the handicap. It doesnt hinder him in any way. Although im sure it has about 50 or so years ago, but like i said eventhough he may technically be handicap, it doesnt hinder him in trhe least.
And to your reply to what i said Jinzin. In certain ways Fury having one eye DOES give him an advantage. Not knowing who he is the average person would immediately think they win cause theyll just take advantage of the eye. Which is clearly not the case or else Fury would have been dead long ago. Although all the superior tech he carries around does help lol.
I know Punisher knows Fury, i was trying to make a point in saying that Castle would assume it was an easy victory if he didnt know Fury as does everyone else. And that would result in a quicker downfall. But because he does know Fury, he knows that the "handicap" wouldnt give him an advantage at all.
not seeing in one friggin eye is gonna be a handicap any way you slice it..the only way he'd have adapted completely to it is if had trained to fight blind...period....personally I haven't seen any evidence that he's done so.. if you can find proof of this I'll shut up..until then... punisher knows who he is, and knows he has a blind spot..blind spots are exploitable...fury doesn't have any "powers" that negate this....fury's open to exploitation because he has a handicaped... he's adapted so that it doesn't hinder him as much as it otherwise would but it's still a handicap...especially when the guy he's fighting is at his same skill level.
Who says it isnt a handicap? Nobody said that Fury has trained blind. And he and Punisher arent on the same level of skills. Bio wise, they have the same attribute points in fighting skills, but Fury is way more skilled and seasoned than Punisher.
Plus Punishers handicap is Fury having more superior weapons. 😄
weapons? this is a fist fight...
you said that the handicap didn't affect him whatsoever...then it's not a handicap..but you say that it is a handicap..which is it? 🤨
and being at the same fighting ability in a fist fight certainly implies they have the same skill level.
more seasoned? pffft..fighting against hydra goons.. punisher throws down with spiderman, wolverine, hulk, ghost rider, daredevil, AND he does it on a regular basis...
Please quote when i said that Fury didnt have a handicap.
I said that he IS handicap but id DOES NOT hinder him in his abilities.
yes Fury is Decades more seasoned than Punisher.
"Punisher throws down with spiderman, wolverine, hulk, ghost rider, daredevil, AND he does it on a regular basis..."
And gets his ass handed to him on a regular basis as well. 😆
Originally posted by King KAM
He has a BROWN belt in Ju-Jitsu, and thats the Japanese kind which is useless I SPANK their Blackbelts like its nothing, SERIOUSLYBRAZILIAN jIu-jitsu is the dangerous stuff, in which i train in, and fury doesnt which means he dont know squat.
oh me got 6 Wing Tsun grades and 2 Escrima grades...it's a very effective fighting style in combat..no fancy kicks and screams...very spartanic and soley intended to take you down...fast and hard... 😮💨 😉
@topic: jeez..that's a good match-up Fury has stood toe to toe with Cap and Castle locked horns with Wolverine, so their record speaks for itself, after spending some thought...Punisher would win an ugly battle by an inch..youth prevails...this time...😄
Originally posted by jinzin
anywho you didn't say that it wasn't a hadicap..you sait it didn't affect him..and you just restated that (it doesn't hinder him)a handicap by definition is a hinderance...
I did say it was a hindicap. I did say it didnt hinder him.
Does his handicap hinder him in battle? No i does not. Does it hinder him from doing his job with efficiency? Not at all.
Originally posted by RogerRamjet
@topic: jeez..that's a good match-up Fury has stood toe to toe with Cap and Castle locked horns with Wolverine, so their record speaks for itself, after spending some thought...Punisher would win an ugly battle by an inch..youth prevails...this time...😄
Youth? Fury is in peak condition due to him taking the Infinity Formula. Sorry.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I did say it was a hindicap. I did say it didnt hinder him.Does his handicap hinder him in battle? No i does not. Does it hinder him from doing his job with efficiency? Not at all.
it will in a fist fight against punisher... his job as the leader of sheild isn't something that's reliant on 100% eyesight.
Originally posted by jinzin
it will in a fist fight against punisher... his job as the leader of sheild isn't something that's reliant on 100% eyesight.
He was also head agent in the CIA. The qualifications would have to be for the person to be able to execute, lead, participate and complete missions efficieantly. soldiers with 100% eyesight cant pull that off. And obviously as you prove my point, his handicap did not hinder him whatsoever. What would his job as leader of S.H.I.E.L.D be reliant on?
Originally posted by jrodslamgood question...
He was also head agent in the CIA. The qualifications would have to be for the person to be able to execute, lead, participate and complete missions efficieantly. soldiers with 100% eyesight cant pull that off. And obviously as you prove my point, his handicap did not hinder him whatsoever. What would his job as leader of S.H.I.E.L.D be reliant on?
Originally posted by jinzin
military intelligence and leadership first and foremost...neither of which helped him much from being put into a hospital recently...
leadership from where? The office? Feild leadership. And you cant be the top leacer if your hindered by a handicap. Put into a hospital how and by who/what?
Originally posted by jrodslam
leadership from where? The office? Feild leadership. And you cant be the top leacer if your hindered by a handicap. Put into a hospital how and by who/what?
office? how about the flying fortress that is the shield hellicarrier...yeah i guess that qualifies as the office. field leadership against whom? hydra? again..I'm not impressed.
and as far as the hospital bed is concerned...northstar curb-stomped the poor ol' guy.