wolverine 25 or 26..
all I'm saying is that you're making his field leadership out to be something it isn't....hell he was in a shield hellicarrier and a ton of villains got the jump on the thing... well obsviously he ain't that great is he?
and when northstar started pummeling him he wasn't moving 700 miles an hour.
Not at all. Youre the one makinf it out like him having one eye hinders him in any way. All im saying is that if it does, why is he so accomplished? Why is he the best at what he does?
Ok Northstar want moving at 700 mph. How fast was he? Or does it not say?
I just find it funny that you bring up Northstar knocking out Fury when he can move at mach speeds and has evebn hurt Savage Hulk with punches. Like he wouldnt do the same to Punisher. 😆
Originally posted by jrodslam
Not at all. Youre the one makinf it out like him having one eye hinders him in any way. All im saying is that if it does, why is he so accomplished? Why is he the best at what he does?Ok Northstar want moving at 700 mph. How fast was he? Or does it not say?
I just find it funny that you bring up Northstar knocking out Fury when he can move at mach speeds and has evebn hurt Savage Hulk with punches. Like he wouldnt do the same to Punisher. 😆
he wasn't going super speeds.... 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
umm yeah....he was a blur....moving at super speeds...when he got to fury he stopped...then he was no longer a blur...then he just hit fury in the face... no blur..no super speed.
Oh yea. Fury was really ready for that one? I guess Punisher beats him with ease based off that. Lol.
Originally posted by jinzin
that's not even the pointI was making when I originally brought it up...nor is this a point i've even implied... 🤨
>>military intelligence and leadership first and foremost...neither of which helped him much from being put into a hospital recently...<<
What was the point then? You brought up Fury being put into a hospital because niether his military intelligence or leadership helped in battle?
Battle against who? Northstar. Why bring it up? Hed do the same to probably all street level fighters.
<<..the only way he'd have adapted completely to it is if had trained to fight blind...period....personally I haven't seen any evidence that he's done so.. if you can find proof of this I'll shut up>>
likewise jin, you can't prove by an instance in a comic that his blindness HAS hindered him. you're claiming that it is based on real life physics, but we know real life rules can't always be applied 'round here.
some of the facts are he spars regularly with cap and actually fought cap to a standstill in a REAL battle sometime ago. he's also an expert marksman -- that's . . . damn near impossible for someone with one eye. clearly he has adapted to the lack of binocularity to achieve such a level. (someone (not you) earlier mentioned he would have a huge depth perception problem - that's not wholly accurate. there are many different cues we use to determine depth)
as for adapting - perhaps the peripheral vision of his one eye far exceeds ours. maybe his opposite ear has become more sensitive. maybe just having been a warrior for so long now (FAR longer than castle) he's developed a greater intuitive sense for h2h combat. it bears repeating -- he's had what, 60 years to become accustomed to the problem. likewise, it's safe to assume i think that he would fight with or have developed a style that might help him alleviate whatever minor disadvantage a highly skilled opponent might gain.
as an example of his skills, in the wolverine/fury/scorpio graphic novel, wolvie and fury each battled zodiac 1on1 in different parts of the book. fury stalemated him (they ended up BOTH taking a long plunge into a river and zodiac escaped) while zodiac beat wolvie into near unconsciousness and was about to kill him with the zodiac weapon when FURY saved his arse and carried him out.
fury's got castle on experience and intelligence. you can't cite specific examples of his 'handicap' affecting him and he's had sufficient to time his body and skills to adapt to the problem. i'd usually say this was 50/50, but fury's edge in experience and brains puts him over the top for me at 6/10.
[COLOR=deeppink]All in all, it all boils down to who is mentioned in Cypress Hill lyrics.......and it AIN'T Nick Fury 😉
But seriously....everybody's made good points in the thread. Especially leonidas. Cool post dude 👆
If i were to take a swing at making a decision, i'd say Nick Fury takes it 6/10. Why? For reasons already stated. I don't believe that real life anatomy, as discussed in another thread, works in this case. Fury can be considered a handicap, but not handicapped. Yeah, i know, sounds stupid, but you all know what i mean, so don't pretend. His years of experience have a say in the whole thing, and IMO they'd be the deciding factor in an otherwise equal fight.
~wickerman~ [/COLOR]