Originally posted by jinzinIf someone is a big deal stronger then you then Japanese JJ doesnt work, because they can muscle out the leverage, and chi-is bs, lets just face it, please people!!!! I AM ONLY TRYING TO HELP YOU!
how does it not work?..I've found many chin-na applications to work just fine... you must not have either been trained correctly in it's application.. or you have not yet encountered someone who has....and...........
DAMMIT! SOMEONE RIPPED OFF MY TERM?!?!?!?!? WTF?!?!?!
Originally posted by jinzin
well if you're some sort of pathetic weakling then yeah it won't work against an extremely overpowering opponent..I was talking about on average though...not going by extremes.
Originally posted by King KAM
in Japanese Ju-Jitsu, its all BS , my friend owns a school, i have faced 2 of their black belts, mopp up the floor with em in grappling.
In that case your friend's school, and his teaching skills as well as students must be crap....sorry to say it. You do realise that Ju Jutsu's been around a lot longer than Capoeira or whatever the hell you're supporting right? You also do realise that the US Army teaches its soldiers Ju Jutsu as do most countries.....right?
As do the SEALS, SAS, MOSSAD and CIA .......
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickermani said brazilian Jiu-Jitsu i didnt say a goddamn thing about capoeira, and i know more about REAL fighting then just about everyone on this goddam thread, so its like a porn star arguing with a buncha virgins about how sex feels.
In that case your friend's school, and his teaching skills as well as students must be crap....sorry to say it. You do realise that Ju Jutsu's been around a lot longer than Capoeira or whatever the hell you're supporting right? You also do realise that the US Army teaches its soldiers Ju Jutsu as do most countries.....right?
As do the SEALS, SAS, MOSSAD and CIA .......~wickerman~
Don't know if it was mentioned but heres some stuff on Frank:
"Frank Castle is well versed in the arts of warfare and hand-to-hand combat, his styles of choice being Ninjutsu, Shorin-Ryu, Hwarangdo, and Chin Na as well as unarmed combat training received in the military. An exceptional knife fighter who carries up to 3 ro 4 different types of edge weapons. Armed solely with conventional weapons and motivated by a fanatical hatred for criminals like those who murdered his family, the Punisher has single-handedly incapacitated up to a dozen well-armed and experienced opponents in a single encounter and escaped uninjured."
Originally posted by King KAM
i said brazilian Jiu-Jitsu i didnt say a goddamn thing about capoeira, and i know more about REAL fighting then just about everyone on this goddam thread, so its like a porn star arguing with a buncha virgins about how sex feels.
Sure you do honey, sure you do. Keep thinking that 😉
As for your cousin....he can say whatever he pleases. He may be in a special unit or whatever. the US Army is trained in japanese ju jutsu.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by King KAM
you dont fight very often.... 😕
I beg to differ young man. I have an amateur boxing record of 14-1 and a amateur MMA record of 4-0. I also have competed in many Karate and Kenpo Tournaments in Hawaii, California, Nevada, Taiwan and the Philippines. Yeah baby, third world countries, where everything's full contact. I grew up on the mean streets of Hawaii were a small guy likes me regularly runs into large Samoan, Tongan, and Polynesian bullies all the time. Yeah, I've had a few scrapes.
I have studied varied disciplines through out my lifetime, that's like 20 years, and I simply learned that going around and bashing other people's arts are not accepted among traditionalists and MMA arena. Now that I reside in Nevada, MMA events like the UFC and King Of Cage is what I watch regularly. Most of those fighters there are very humble and show respect to other arts unlike yourself. I have found it fortunate to cross train in a multitude of styles like Muay Thai under Master Toddy, Tae Kwon Do under Master Heel Ih Cho, Savate and Maphilindo Silat under Guro Rick Tucci. All these styles have something to offer. Every style has their weak and strong points, but expressing your opinion of other styles may come back to bite you later in my life.
Heed my words young man. I met many a martial artist with a big mouth like yours, but in the end, someone always usually kicks the crap out of that person.
I HAVE TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY IN THIS THREAD…
“I deeply apologize for bashing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and starting a not needed bashing of other Martial Arts. Sorry KING KAM.”
My point was that KING KAM says Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is superior; especially over Japanese Jiu-Jitsu which annoyed me very much. I think Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has many bonuses, but in my experience. Every time I have a meet a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner in battle or conversation, they think they are superior over all. Because their strength in ‘take downs, into locks’. I believe in real fights this is not always the case. Just going by SENTRY, which he has many’ a wise things to say…
Originally posted by Sentry
The style doesn't make a man. It's the man that makes the style work. Do you understand? In fighting anyone can give anyone a hard time, it all just depends on the person training in that particular discipline.
Its not what you learn but it is how you use it. I just think your Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is very flawed, in the way that you need a lot of strength work in order for you techniques to come in full use (and to the people in this thread who say Japanese Jiu-Jitsu is all about strength, the norm. then YES but true practitioners only use strength when is due). And your style is relatively knew compared to other more traditional styles, which is one of the reason people are not familiar in the way you compete and fight, which also gives you the element of surprise which has great advantage in wining your battles. There’s not much rocket science to it, you run in, grab, lock and disable. But if your not strong enough or that the opponent is familiar to you style. You are finish (I do not need to remind you or the GRACIE FAMILY, the creators of your style. In the past they can beat any great master but now nearly no one. Because the great masters are familiar. Your friend or your opponents are not). Your style doesn’t leave room for change or improvement on self.
Lets take a quote out of the greatest poster child of martial arts and self-improvement. “In real life situations you wont be able to execute your technique with full grace… why is this? Because of broken rhythm. If you move I will not stand there. If you did get me in close quarters, I would have to use my last resort in evacuation… I BITE.” – BRUCE LEE (ok, this is not a real quote. It is many different things and quotes he has said throughout his life. I just toke a little bit of artistic licence. I am sorry to those who are truly and honestly appalled with this quote, and I am not sorry to those who just want to stir)
You see; you can train the muscles you need to make you technique more efficient. But in the end, someone will break your technique. Because time will let these people know your martial art. Ok lets just say no one will ever break your technique. But I’ll tell you this, no one will need to break you because time will do this.
I have had the privilege to meet and train with superior world champion JUDO masters of young and wise (their strength work is simular to yours). And unfortunately for them and me I was unable to train with them… this is because all their years in doing intense strength work, they have lost the use of their arms. They had developed a very bad case of arthritis.
You see if you intend to live a good and truly happy life (which I hope you will), then you need balance in this truly crazy world of the ‘Information Age’. You will not be the best and most definitely I will not be the best. I have accomplished some things in my time but I do not need to flaunt it around like you have. I hope this have made you consider things of life in general because Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is not the key, you are.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THANKYOU TO SENTRY IN THIS THREAD…
Thank you SENTRY in you last thread…
Originally posted by Sentry
I beg to differ young man. I have an amateur boxing record of 14-1 and a amateur MMA record of 4-0. I also have competed in many Karate and Kenpo Tournaments in Hawaii, California, Nevada, Taiwan and the Philippines. Yeah baby, third world countries, where everything's full contact. I grew up on the mean streets of Hawaii were a small guy likes me regularly runs into large Samoan, Tongan, and Polynesian bullies all the time. Yeah, I've had a few scrapes.I have studied varied disciplines through out my lifetime, that's like 20 years, and I simply learned that going around and bashing other people's arts are not accepted among traditionalists and MMA arena. Now that I reside in Nevada, MMA events like the UFC and King Of Cage is what I watch regularly. Most of those fighters there are very humble and show respect to other arts unlike yourself. I have found it fortunate to cross train in a multitude of styles like Muay Thai under Master Toddy, Tae Kwon Do under Master Heel Ih Cho, Savate and Maphilindo Silat under Guro Rick Tucci. All these styles have something to offer. Every style has their weak and strong points, but expressing your opinion of other styles may come back to bite you later in my life.
Heed my words young man. I met many a martial artist with a big mouth like yours, but in the end, someone always usually kicks the crap out of that person.
You have made me think about what I have written and what I was trying to write. And I Thank you.
From one simple practitioner of martial arts to another, peace out…
💃