Continue the agrument? Uh, you're the one prodding it along. If you are "tired of arguing", which sounds like you're just -so- put out by arguing to me and Illustrious, who must be unbearably difficult to reason with, oh POOR DARTH SOMEBODY...
Please, give up the drama. You didn't refute a single thing any of us has said. You just attack the person, over and over again. You are the epitome of illogical on this forum.
Originally posted by Deus Ex
Hm. I was a bit late in realizing that this was supposed to be in the Vader versus Dooku thread, but since DS spews the same crap in all threads, it was a slight mistake on my part.DS, I'm not bias for Dooku. Get that through your head. And you can't refute anything to save your soul, so you just use some witty sarcasm and rip on me and than overexaggerate anything I say or flat out twist it. So please, take your own advice and either learn to debate or back down and agree to disagree... or shut the hell up. Choice is yours, really. You came around spewing off nonsense and semantics, because you don't have an ice cube's chance in hell of proving that Sidious can beat Dooku soundly, Yoda soundly, or even Vader can defeat Dooku. You're all sarcasm and semantics and bias, and then you accuse others of your faults. In short, you're a coward without a leg to stand on.
Of course. One thing, though. I never said Sidious could beat Yoda or that he would soundly beat Dooku. I'd like for you to tell me when I said that. If not, then perhaps you ought to be careful how you word things. It seems to me that you're used to your opinion being law. Hence the "you have bias for Sidious" and the "I'm not bias for Dooku.". No, Janus. I am biased for Sidious. But you are for Dooku. If you don't see it, well, that's your own fault.
Please remember. You're making the responses. I'm just telling you what I disagree with. But you're entitled to your opinion. You did win this argument afterall. 🙂
Originally posted by Deus Ex
Continue the agrument? Uh, you're the one prodding it along. If you are "tired of arguing", which sounds like you're just -so- put out by arguing to me and Illustrious, who must be unbearably difficult to reason with, oh POOR DARTH SOMEBODY...Please, give up the drama. You didn't refute a single thing any of us has said. You just attack the person, over and over again. You are the epitome of illogical on this forum.
You're right. So, I'll stop after this.
1. He's arrogant. So are you.
2. I'm biased. You're biased. He's biased.
3. You both attack me more than I ever have attacked you.
So. Armed with that, congratulations on your victory, Illustrious and Janus. Earned through-and-through. I hope you both have a lovely evening.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Of course. One thing, though. I never said Sidious could beat Yoda or that he would soundly beat Dooku. I'd like for you to tell me when I said that. If not, then perhaps you ought to be careful how you word things. It seems to me that you're used to your opinion being law. Hence the "you have bias for Sidious" and the "I'm not bias for Dooku.". No, Janus. I am biased for Sidious. But you are for Dooku. If you don't see it, well, that's your own fault.Please remember. You're making the responses. I'm just telling you what I disagree with. But you're entitled to your opinion. You did win this argument afterall. 🙂
Your admiting your biased? Why is this thread still alive?
I've always admitted that I have a preference to Sidious over all other Star Wars characters. But I try not to let that preference cloud me from the truth, Makashi. Others are under the dellusion that their bias is justified and that they can deny it. I accept that I admire Sidious above any other Star Wars characters.
But will that stop me from telling the truth? Or do I take it to the perverse level that Emperor Revan does?
No.
Edit: And erm...I dunno. I didn't make the thread. But it's solved. Sidious did win in Episode III. But would he have won in any other environment? Not likely. Not likely at all.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
1. Conceited? YOU of all people accuse ME of being conceited? You're the very epitome of the word, Illustrious. As well as HIPOCRISY. You might ought to consult Webster on both. 🙂
Oh boohoo, I can't hold a candle to the big boys in a debate, so I'm going to push their buttons and then go hide behind the teacher's dress. I know how the gig goes down, don't play at it.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
2. Mace did beat Sidious. Please show me where I said otherwise. 🙂
You argued in several threads, for several pages, that Mace is not the better "duelist" as compared to Sidious, when all you do is peddle your narrow-minded, conceited viewpoint on what a "duelist" is. This isn't fencing. If you want to use your purist view on "dueling" that flip Palpatine did to get out of the way was illegal.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
3. No. Actually, Sidious's abilities at checkers and basketweaving are one hundred percent irrelevant whereas I was simply offering that Mace did nothing to show he was superior in blade-to-blade skill. That is speculation. Speculation is nothing you - who reside in a Versus forum - need to dismiss. It's the very foundation of these forums. 🙂
And Sidious' blade to blade skill is also 100% irrelevant if he simply gets the blade kicked out of his hand. This shows poor awareness and poor prowess in battle. It's a double whammy then. Sure, I'll stroke your ego and say Sidious is the best at sewing, basketweaving, and webpage designing in the entire SWU.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
4. Like I said. You're right. You can boast, brag, insult, and do whatever you like. I'm simply tired of arguing with you and Janus. So, please, have at it and continue the argument. 🙂
Notice what I said in the first point. You're the one who plays the victim, can't hold a debate, can't hang with the big boys, and decide to go push some buttons before running behind the teacher's dress. Good job at being a dumbass, seriously.
Illustrious, you're entitled to your opinion and I respect you for sharing it.
Edit: But I would like to offer the following. Never did I say that Mace did not defeat Sidious. If you would like, I can hunt down the quotes and show you you're wrong. Arguing that he is not necessarily the superior duelist isn't saying that he won in that particular scenario.
Oddly like Yoda and Sidious, don't you think?
You mis-understand me, Makashi.
When I say Sidious won, I didn't mean that he won the battle, per say. One could in fact, argue, that Yoda won the duel - because it was he who landed the final blow - albeit one that delt him the worse end.
In terms of VICTORY - Sidious won. His goals were acquired whereas Yoda's were not.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Now clearly the most annoying thing is that you have the intrinsic desire of acting self-righteous, taking jabs at other individuals after pushing their buttons by spewing repetitive and baseless, illogical jargon. So I'm going to do what you do so much of: ask you to stop.
I pushed your buttons? Really? I didn't know I could arouse your annoyance that easily. You might want to look into that. I also would suggest you not get into self-absorbed rants.
See, ironically, you tried to accuse ME of being conceited...
"No, we have offered no proof for your narrow, conceited, and thoroughly illogical view of "dueling" juxtaposed to "fighting." I can make a topic impossibly small and say that you have offered no proof either. I can say that Dooku "fearing" Sidious has no implication on Sidious' outright abilities, as it was never demonstrated (oh wow, sound familiar?)."
And then you post this...
"Yeah, I am entitled to my opinion, and I'm also entitled to proving your opinion wrong, period."
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Thusly proving my point and eliminating yours. But that's a whole 'nother argument. So, please. When YOU stop - then I will.
I pushed your buttons? Really? I didn't know I could arouse your annoyance that easily. You might want to look into that. I also would suggest you not get into self-absorbed rants.
You push a lot of buttons simply because you make fanboy posts that have no logical support. Got it? It's simple.
See, ironically, you tried to accuse ME of being conceited..."No, we have offered no proof for your narrow, conceited, and thoroughly illogical view of "dueling" juxtaposed to "fighting." I can make a topic impossibly small and say that you have offered no proof either. I can say that Dooku "fearing" Sidious has no implication on Sidious' outright abilities, as it was never demonstrated (oh wow, sound familiar?)."
And then you post this...
"Yeah, I am entitled to my opinion, and I'm also entitled to proving your opinion wrong, period."
My second quote somehow negates that your first quote is conceited? A gunshot sounds the same in every language.
husly proving my point and eliminating yours. But that's a whole 'nother argument. So, please. When YOU stop - then I will.
You expect others to take your advice, but you can't take anyone else's advice? Seriously, what kind of spoiled-children argumens is this?
M'kay. Well, Illustrious, I wouldn't go around telling people that they are conceited when I just proved to you that you ARE conceited. When you judge others negatively on how they act and then act that way yourself, you are experiencing and expressing "hipocrisy".
However. I know you know what hipocrisy is - nor do I presume to tell you how to act. You're old and mature enough.
So. I'll go and bid you all a seriously LOVELY remainder of the evening and many more to come.
Cya. 🙂