I'm not sure but once a pedophile has been sentence to serve time in prison for their crime they get put in a separate section. This is due because some prisoners (that are parents) would kill the pedophile upon hearing his crime. So putting a pedophile in prison is just as bad as using the death penalty. Some inmate eventually will get to him and kill him.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
I still wouldn't put my child in the position of spending time with a confessed paedophile.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why?..:.hat probably much safer than anything else......
How so?
You ask 'Why?' Because I would choose not to put my child in that situation. I am basically trusting that a person who has declared that they are a paedophile , yet haven't acted upon it, will indeed not act upon it.
Would you put a bag full of $100.00 bills by a self proclaimed kleptomaniac (sp?)?
Would you feel comfortable with your wife or girlfriend spending alot of time around someone who has admitted to having vivid rape fantasies?
Well, maybe you would, but I would put the safety of those I love ahead of trusting someone I do not know who may have a proclivity tor temptation to act upon their fantasies.
Some think, in an ideal world, the best place for paedophiles or people who think such thoughts is in the community where they can get on with their life(while getting psychiatric further help) under the eyes of the community and the children are educated in the person to keep away or not go anywhere with the man/woman.
But unfortunately, we have people in the world who will do something about the paedophile and probably kill him/her.
again i'll highlight the medias role in the hysteria surrounding this issue
only today the papers printed headlines about the rory blackhall murder trial...he was found dead last week and one of the suspects was found hanged in his house yesterday....the suspect was due to appear in court the day after rory's body was found on child sex offences...he hadn't been tried or found guilty....but that didnt stop the newspapers printing headlines such as "child sex beast found dead"
A friend of mine, when he was eighteen, went out for a couple of months with a fifteen year old girl, and he admits to a bit of heavy petting.... technically, this makes him a paedophile, despite the fact that she was only a few days off sixteen when the "offence" occurred.... should he be jailed?? And lets be honest, how many men haven't looked at a young, attractive girl, thinking thoughts of a sexual nature, only to be told "look out, mate, she's only fourteen..." should they be arrested for that? There's no way of magically making that girl unattractive just like that, but the knowledge that the girl is underage would prevent one taking those feelings further.... and that's the point.... its the deed that counts.... if you could arrest people for their thoughts, we'd all be in jail.... who hasn't contemplated theft, murder, assault.... very very few I'd warrant... the difference between a criminal and a non criminal is that the thought becomes deed.... a teacher who admits to paedophilia should, if he has any honour at all, resign his post, rather than risk anything happening.... just as an arsonist should resign from the dynamite factory....
Originally posted by big gay kirk
A friend of mine, when he was eighteen, went out for a couple of months with a fifteen year old girl, and he admits to a bit of heavy petting.... technically, this makes him a paedophile, despite the fact that she was only a few days off sixteen when the "offence" occurred.... should he be jailed?? And lets be honest, how many men haven't looked at a young, attractive girl, thinking thoughts of a sexual nature, only to be told "look out, mate, she's only fourteen..." should they be arrested for that? There's no way of magically making that girl unattractive just like that, but the knowledge that the girl is underage would prevent one taking those feelings further.... and that's the point.... its the deed that counts.... if you could arrest people for their thoughts, we'd all be in jail.... who hasn't contemplated theft, murder, assault.... very very few I'd warrant... the difference between a criminal and a non criminal is that the thought becomes deed.... a teacher who admits to paedophilia should, if he has any honour at all, resign his post, rather than risk anything happening.... just as an arsonist should resign from the dynamite factory....
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Remember, folks, there's a difference between a child molester, a pedophile, and statutory rape.
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Originally posted by FeceMan
Remember, folks, there's a difference between a child molester, a pedophile, and statutory rape.
By what I hear on the radio, that wouldn't be the case. I believe you are correct, but many people don't (or it seems that way). I believe a person could be a pedophile and never molester, it would be like an alcoholic who never drinks.
Both KarmaDog and lil' B have made some fascinating points here and I'd like to add one or two of my own.
Anti-social behavior is perverse in that it is created by the society it is part of. No-one is born 'evil', but through experiences certain disreputable personality traits are created. When considering the nature of a paedophile, it is important to remember that society contributed to the problem to begin with. Therefore, it is a community-shared shame as well as an individual one.
As for the nature of eleveninches' avatar, I think it's a case where the moderators of this forum should act. I'm certainly not someone who condones censorship, but considering the nature of the 'joke', I feel it is totally lacking in decency and that he should be ashamed of himself.
Alot of paedophilia gets blown way out of proportion as many have said, for no other reason other than kids are involved.
Proof being in a paper yesterday there was a headline: "Arsonists kill 4 year old baby" or something.
I was reading it, then I noticed that the mother was tied up and left to burn alive. Yet they chose to highlight the fact that a baby died. It's child worship. You either love everyone from all ages equally or you can shut up.
Crimes are crimes, some cases are more severe than others but age should never be that decider.
-AC
I posted these links and this pieces of text a while ago in another
thread, its crazy at the turn of this century the uk was whipped into a frenzy by the media who created a moral panic and turned a "paediatrician" into someone very scared as he was mistaken by an ignorant mob for a paedophile.
In comparison to the past, children today are relatively safe. During the years 1983-93, 57 children were killed by strangers in the UK - an average of five a year... when one considers that there are 12 million children in the UK, the risk of murder by a stranger is statistically negligible.
- F Furedi, Culture Of Fear, 1997
The majority of all children countable under the Harm Standard1 (78%) were maltreated by their birth parents, and this held true both for children who were abused (62% were maltreated by birth parents) and for those who were neglected (91% experienced neglect by birth parents).
- US Department of Health Survey, September 1996
This bit is scary the English more so than the Welsh and Scots went insane:-
From Plymouth to Portsmouth, Manchester to London, wrongly identified men and known paedophiles found themselves being hounded by mobs up to 300-strong.
The vigilante action was most severe on the Paulsgrove estate in Portsmouth, where protesters circulated a list of 20 alleged sex offenders in the community and proceeded to target them.
The crowds - 40 of whom were later charged with offences - smashed windows, torched cars and forced five families wrongly identified as harbouring sex offenders out of their homes. A suspected paedophile in nearby Southampton shot himself dead and a female registrar was hounded from her South Wales home because neighbours confused "paediatrician" with "paedophile."
As senior police officers warned that such action would end in murder, the News of the World called off its ambitious naming and shaming project, and called instead for "Sarah's Law'.
http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,1074,618198,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,891476,00.html
We've had paediatricians attacked because people get "paediatrician" confused with "paedophile". Whose next? I've got relations in Ireland called "Paddy O'Farrell"; that sounds a bit like "paedophile", so maybe the mob will storm their houses as well. And as for Iraqi paedophiles posing as asylum seekers, well they're the worst of the lot.
This bit is hilarious
Brass Eye Special
As always, the programme took the form of a spoof documentary. In Channel 4's own words, there were five fundamental themes:
Media hysteria
Misinformation
Sexualisation of children
Media hypocrisy
Public debate
The programme makers approached 315 public figures and invited them to take part in promoting a paedophile awareness campaign. This campaign was a set-up. They were asked to read scripts containing ludicrous assertions, including:
Internet paedophiles can project poison gas through a child's keyboard using the new HOECS3 system.
Paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than humans.
'Trust Me Trousers', which were inflated to hide a paedophile's erection.
Supporting a group called 'Nonce4 Sense'.
Amazingly, several celebrities fell for it and happily regurgitated this rubbish for the camera. These people included
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676424
It really saties the ridiculous moral panic and forlk devils created by the British media on paedophiles at the turn of the century.
The crazy thing and don't tell Deano is David Icke may well have got it right this time 😕 and don't tell Deano I read some David Icke and agreed with it on this - OK
http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/europe/england/080101a.html
I would like to point out again I think this thread is a flame as the guy who started it is showing a picture of a child star in his avatar called Dakota Fanning and states his location as in Dakota. He also calls himself "eleven inches" read into all that what you will.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Eh, AC...Children are given greater attention simply because they are more vulnerable than adults. Their world is lacking in experience and appliable wisdom. I'm surprised that this should illude you.
What science did you use to deduce that it ELUDED (not illude) me?
I'm well aware of why people do it. Doesn't stop it being bullshit though. If you're so altruistic, a life is a life.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What science did you use to deduce that it ELUDED (not illude) me?I'm well aware of why people do it. Doesn't stop it being bullshit though. If you're so altruistic, a life is a life.
-AC
Ahh...There's that corridor-esque world-view of yours again! I meant what I typed - 'illude'.
Ask my friend, www.dictionary.com about it...
Reposted as at the bottom of the page
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I posted these links and this pieces of text a while ago in another
thread, its crazy at the turn of this century the uk was whipped into a frenzy by the media who created a moral panic and turned a "paediatrician" into someone very scared as he was mistaken by an ignorant mob for a paedophile.In comparison to the past, children today are relatively safe. During the years 1983-93, 57 children were killed by strangers in the UK - an average of five a year... when one considers that there are 12 million children in the UK, the risk of murder by a stranger is statistically negligible.
- F Furedi, Culture Of Fear, 1997
The majority of all children countable under the Harm Standard1 (78%) were maltreated by their birth parents, and this held true both for children who were abused (62% were maltreated by birth parents) and for those who were neglected (91% experienced neglect by birth parents).
- US Department of Health Survey, September 1996This bit is scary the English more so than the Welsh and Scots went insane:-
From Plymouth to Portsmouth, Manchester to London, wrongly identified men and known paedophiles found themselves being hounded by mobs up to 300-strong.
The vigilante action was most severe on the Paulsgrove estate in Portsmouth, where protesters circulated a list of 20 alleged sex offenders in the community and proceeded to target them.
The crowds - 40 of whom were later charged with offences - smashed windows, torched cars and forced five families wrongly identified as harbouring sex offenders out of their homes. A suspected paedophile in nearby Southampton shot himself dead and a female registrar was hounded from her South Wales home because neighbours confused "paediatrician" with "paedophile."
As senior police officers warned that such action would end in murder, the News of the World called off its ambitious naming and shaming project, and called instead for "Sarah's Law'.
http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,1074,618198,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,891476,00.html
We've had paediatricians attacked because people get "paediatrician" confused with "paedophile". Whose next? I've got relations in Ireland called "Paddy O'Farrell"; that sounds a bit like "paedophile", so maybe the mob will storm their houses as well. And as for Iraqi paedophiles posing as asylum seekers, well they're the worst of the lot.
This bit is hilarious
Brass Eye Special
As always, the programme took the form of a spoof documentary. In Channel 4's own words, there were five fundamental themes:
Media hysteria
Misinformation
Sexualisation of children
Media hypocrisy
Public debate
The programme makers approached 315 public figures and invited them to take part in promoting a paedophile awareness campaign. This campaign was a set-up. They were asked to read scripts containing ludicrous assertions, including:Internet paedophiles can project poison gas through a child's keyboard using the new HOECS3 system.
Paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than humans.
'Trust Me Trousers', which were inflated to hide a paedophile's erection.
Supporting a group called 'Nonce4 Sense'.
Amazingly, several celebrities fell for it and happily regurgitated this rubbish for the camera. These people included
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676424
It really saties the ridiculous moral panic and forlk devils created by the British media on paedophiles at the turn of the century.
The crazy thing and don't tell Deano is David Icke may well have got it right this time 😕 and don't tell Deano I read some David Icke and agreed with it on this - OK
http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/europe/england/080101a.html
I would like to point out again I think this thread is a flame as the guy who started it is showing a picture of a child star in his avatar called Dakota Fanning and states his location as in Dakota. He also calls himself "eleven inches" read into all that what you will.