Philosophy is meaningless

Started by Chibi Boy4 pages

I myself beleive that we aren't gods, but we are special, and our souls are kind of linked to the universe. And i also believe there is a God.

What does it mean to say that there is a God? What is the meaning of the existence of a God? Does it mean anything if one claims that there is a God? Does it mean anything different to say that there isn't one? Why would there be a God? What meaning is there in having a God who created the world? Why create? For what reason must there be a reason to life?

Originally posted by Wonderer
What does it mean to say that there is a God?

Very little. One can say a lot and prove very little.
Originally posted by Wonderer
What is the meaning of the existence of a God?

Also very little. Existence has no bearing on whether or not the entity takes an active role in the universe that would elicit meaningful consequences.
Originally posted by Wonderer
Does it mean anything if one claims that there is a God?

No people can claim whatever they want but claims are meaningless without corresponding evidence.
Originally posted by Wonderer
Does it mean anything different to say that there isn't one?

No people can claim whatever they want but claims are meaningless without corresponding evidence.
Originally posted by Wonderer
Why would there be a God?

Man's egotism.
Originally posted by Wonderer
What meaning is there in having a God who created the world?

Nothing other than it serves man's egotism.
Originally posted by Wonderer
Why create?

Why not?
Originally posted by Wonderer
For what reason must there be a reason to life?

Life is what you make of it.

i think we technicaly are Gods because we have the ability to create things out of nothing, even the existance of God. I don't believe that God created us, but rather that we created him and that from extension he created us because of our belife in his existence. It might not make sense but it makes sense to me.

Re: Philosophy is meaningless

Originally posted by Wonderer
How can there ever be real meaning and resolution to philosophizing if we can never be assured in an absolute sense by the infinity of being as such that our ideas are correct and real? If we are merely minutely small parts of the whole of existence and not the 'god's' of it, can there be any meaning to ponder the truth and meaning of life? Is there a solution to all the problems of philosophy, and if not, is there meaning in it?

Philosophy couldn´t have any real meaning because its purely subjective and cannot be proved right ? Then, why people accept so easily the statement that "Evidence in needed to make things meaningful", this statement is purely subjective as it is philosophy, you cannot prove that statement, you can just believe in it in the same way religious people believe in god. Science and fact are only "more meaningful" than philosophy, or religion, because people believe in it.

People who have cut their teeth on philosophical problems of rationality, knowledge, perception, free will and other minds are well placed to think better about problems of evidence, decision making, responsibility and ethics that life throws up. We may never arrive at any final answers, but in many ways it is the journey which is most important, not the destination. Philosophy, in one way or another, ends up touching upon nearly every aspect of human life.

Originally posted by Wonderer
What does it mean to say that there is a God? What is the meaning of the existence of a God? Does it mean anything if one claims that there is a God? Does it mean anything different to say that there isn't one? Why would there be a God? What meaning is there in having a God who created the world? Why create? For what reason must there be a reason to life?

1. To say there is a god is to say that we are important, to say that we aren't just another grain of sand on the beach.

2. God is here to protect the universe and keep it in order 😬

3. Ofcourse it means something, you can claim there is a god and you could find out when you die. If you claim there is a god that actually doesn't exist and that someone elses god exists you will probably be tortured for eternity, if you was right then you will be happy for eternity. If you don't believe in a god atall it's either torture, or torture 😬 .

4."What meaning is there in having a God who created the world?"
God decided to make us and the world, he decided to have children technically.

5. he created because he wanted to.

6. You think on the same lines as i, and i asure you there is more reason for our existance in god than there is without. There is a reason to life as it is like a test, the good seeds go to the good place and the bad seeds go to the incinerator 😗

I see you also believe the universe revolves around reason, and you know what? I believe you are absolutely right. There is a purpose to life because life is precious and life is precious because god made us as his children, plus god set a plan for our life, ever heard of death of old age? Well murder or suicide goes against this plan that god made for us.

But no god means there is no preciousness about life because it's all over the universe and nobody made us which doesn't make us special in any way. The universe was just luck, we are just random life forms and it won't effect the universe if we all DIE.

i agree with the possibility that there is a univrsal god who comes in different forms to different cultures and to a certain degree believe that gods represent different aspects of the scientific world. But the idea of one special god thats better than all other gods is pure nonsense. The reason for why science is more efficient than philosophy and religion is that

A: it gives answers
& B: can be proven more than once

Has the Big Bang been created in a lab? Has it been proven more than once? Has evolution been created in a lab? Has evolution been proven more han once?

No, the big band is a theory. I do not deny that. But certain things are pure fact.

Exactly, now does science officially say that a god doesn't exist? Is it proven against in a laboratory?

No, but certain things that are proven facts do not fit with the so called "facts" that religion promotes. I believe in the possibility of a god but not one specified within any religiouse text or organized group.

It proves The Bible factually inaccurate...

May you please point out these certain features that science does not agree with.

May I remind you that there are things which are way beyond our knowledge and understanding such as Worm Holes

Age of the earth, origin of species, worldwide flood, to name but a few.

People being made of dust and breath, magical apples, people being created seperately from animals, I can go on and on.

The bible is simply a mythology. The ideas are not meant to be seen as facts, they are symbols meant to be understood individualy.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
May I remind you that there are things which are way beyond our knowledge and understanding such as Worm Holes

You're a constant reminder that some things are beyond certain people's understanding.
BTW Wormholes are theorised - to my knowledge none have been found to exist yet.

What do you mean 'created seperately from animals'?

And as a scientific fact we are made of dust.

Magical Apples?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're a constant reminder that some things are beyond certain people's understanding.
BTW Wormholes are theorised - to my knowledge none have been found to exist yet.

Then why do people say they exist?