Philosophy is meaningless

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
And as a scientific fact we are made of dust.

The bible suports the idea that humans are above animals and were created with the divinity of god. there is also a section of genesis where a peice of fruit is eaten to bring knowledge. You can not honestly belive that there was actual knowledge bearing fruit, it was a symbol.

Exactly, It WAS a symbol, It was just a test to see if they would eat from it or not, before they did eat when god told them not to they didn't have The Knowledge Of Good And Evil, but once they disobeyed god they did have the knowledge.

And what's so wrong in being above the Animals?

its not wrong its just not correct.... if that makes sense

If they lacked knowledge of good and evil then why would they listen to God - they don't know whether he's good or evil?

So you agree with evolution too? rolleyes1

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If they lacked knowledge of good and evil then why would they listen to God they don't know whether he's good or evil?

Because he was the only one they knew to be boss.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
And what's so wrong in being above the Animals?

It leads to great suffering. If I think I'm better than someone of something, I will do things to that person or animal or thing that I wouldn't normally do. This bad action brings back to me bad results, always.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It leads to great suffering. If I think I'm better than someone of something, I will do things to that person or animal or thing that I wouldn't normally do. This bad action brings back to me bad results, always.

Good point, are you a vegetarian?

But even god believes that it's good to be nice to those who are less.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
Because he was the only one they knew to be boss.

i got no idea of what you just said chibi

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The serpent (another needless vilification) was there too apparently. They wouldn't know that the serpent was evil.

Yeah, but the first one who gave them orders was god whom they clearly didn't want to betray. But because they didn't have the knowledge is why they actually ate from the tree.

Originally posted by Superfly4000
i got no idea of what you just said chibi

I know, but i've editted it

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
Yeah, but the first one who gave them orders was god whom they clearly didn't want to betray.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Betrayal isn't a relevant concept to one who has no knowledge of the differences between what is good, what is evil and what is everything in between.

I know, but he told them not too, they might not have known if it was bad or good but they still did what he said.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
I know, but he told them not too, they might not have known if it was bad or good but they still did what he said.

There is a difference between Good or evil and Right or Wrong.

Somewhere stealing might be right, or murder.
Theres what someone says you can/can't do = Right or Wrong
And there's what you personally think you can/can't do = Good or evil

Since we are off topic, let me add what I think the story of Adam and Eve means; there was a time when we humans found food in nature (the garden) and we had no possessions. We then changed to an agrarian society and had to have things. When you have things, other people can want those things and take them from us. This is the first sin, the burden of having things.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
There is a difference between Good or evil and Right or Wrong.

Somewhere stealing might be right, or murder.
Theres what someone says you can/can't do = Right or Wrong
And there's what you personally think you can/can't do = Good or evil

Just because the rules in one place say you aren't allowed guns doesn't mean somewhere else has to aswell.
In one place you can be good for doing something which is wrong in another place.

Right or Wrong=Rules
Good or Evil=Not Rules

It's the knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL not Right or Wrong.