Fleet Battles

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The Galactic Empire at its peak was projected to have over two hundred thousand star destroyers of various kinds. Let's throw in a death star, have thrawn in charge, and a nearly limitless, fast way of creating soldiers. If Thrawn [who I'm going to say is in charge] goes ysalamari crazy like he normally does, that cripples the Infinite Empire.

Sheer numbers ought to win it for them

If your referring to the fact the Rebels destroyed the DeathStar you need to rethink that. They knew how to destroy it because they had the DeathStar plans. The IE wouldn't know about that weakness.

1. The Death Star has access to more immediate firepower than the Star Forge can ever access. It has it's fleets. But, we know that they all are not instant - and that it takes time to amass a fleet from the Forge. In the meantime, you have the Imperial Starfleet - which is immensely powerful and talented.

2. The Death Star won't have to get too close. The Star Forge has shown nothing that can inhibit the Death Star's laser - which is powerful enough to destroy a planet.

The Star Forge goes down - along with anyone on board.

Originally posted by ESB-1138
If your referring to the fact the Rebels destroyed the DeathStar you need to rethink that. They knew how to destroy it because they had the DeathStar plans. The IE wouldn't know about that weakness.

THEY HAVE THE FORCE. They can asess the weaknesses quite easily.

Galactic Empire has this in the bag.

Originally posted by ResubianNushi
THEY HAVE THE FORCE. They can asess the weaknesses quite easily.

Can you prove that?

Originally posted by ESB-1138
Can you prove that?

KOTOR. Common Sense. If the Star Forge needs the force to work it, therefor the people who use it need the force.

I say it again...ysalamari=no force. Thrawn has access to ysalamari. No more force.

He's not gonna have a few million ysalamari, which would be necessary to cloak a damn fleet.

Ysalamari have only a range of 1 meter or something for thier anti-force thing to be effective.

Originally posted by ResubianNushi
KOTOR. Common Sense. If the Star Forge needs the force to work it, therefor the people who use it need the force.

And that helps them learn the DeathStar's weakness how?

who ever has yoda will win, cos he never loses he is to good

Originally posted by Jaster Mereel
Ysalamari have only a range of 1 meter or something for thier anti-force thing to be effective.

Completely wrong. Each ysalamari, yes, a meter, but when they're bunched together, their range adds up. I think Luke was 10 kilometers from them and he was still feeling their affects.

10k is nothing in space. The only time you'l be getting that type of range is a Battle of Coruscent(sp) situation, when you just hyperspaced INTO someone else's fleet.

Trawn had about 2000 Ysalamari in the Thrawn Triliogy and it went a lot farther than that.

Yeah. . . 2000 Ysalamari for a fleet of 200,000 Star Destroyers? Don't think so. You'd have to bunch the fleet up so tight you'd lose half of itto collisions in 'Force-cloaked' transportation.

Agreed. This is all really stupid. Point is, the Infinite Empire under the Ratakan numbered billions of Ratakan and easily ten times that in slaves from various planets. They could probably field more troops and ships than anyone in existance, enough to take out the Galactic Empire, with the Death Star and possibly Thrawn in tow. If you can field x amount of troops, x being whatever the **** you feel like, then how can someone with y amount of troops, y being fixed and can only go down, possibly win the long and drawn out battle that is to come? Hell, you don't even have to man Ratakan ships- just set them with hasty coordinates and launch them. The Death Star can shoot a beam about perhaps a third or so the size of a planet, with a ridiculous recharge time, and no one here knows the ammo count on that thing. If it shoots more than four of those blasts, it's ridiculous. Point being, you couldn't knock out the Infinite Fleet with Death Star blasts, nor could you put them out with a few creatures either. That's grasping at straws. And lastly, there's no conceivable way the Death Star could get within range to blow up the Infinite Empire without having half a million ships on its ass. Consider how close the Death Star had to be to Yavin to even prepare for an attack. It took a half an hour to get within range, during which time the rebels scrambled enough fighters to effectively destroy it. Now imagine even a squadron of Force sensitive snub fighters. The chance of the Death Star getting 'shafted' just grew a whole hell of a lot.

The Galactic Empire's pwned. . .

Well, to be fair, it wouldn't be an easy battle, especially with Thrawn. But it would lead to the Empire's demise, since their resources are limited. In fixed numbers and depending on how much per side, the Ratakan ships are actually smaller and inferior (though how much is another debate) to OT era Imperial ships. Personally, I like the looks of Imperial ships better. Actually, I think the whole way the empire was made to look kicks ass.

Yeah but what does that matter?

Give a force user a weaker fighter and he could still take out many superior fighters. These guys were damn force users, yeah their capitol ships couldn't easily take out imperial capitol ships. But the Rakatan could easily create 10x as much ships as the Empire could ever dream off. Imagine a few droids in those and set for ramming speed, the Empire would go down and pray for mercy as the first load of droids hits.

They don't even need to know the weakness of the Death Star a 100 ships crashing on it would be effective as well. Also you have to remember are incredibly smart i'm sure they would adopt their technology to that of the Empire, and its obvious that the Star Forge can create other kinds of ships, so if they capture a Star Destroyer or a SSD (which probably wouldn't be to hard) They could start creating those things.

And I'm not so sure if the Rakatan capitol ships are weaker now that I think of it, the ships Revan used were not those that were originally created by the Star Forge during the height of the Rakatan Empire. After all the ships Revan used were not powered by the force, so it had been changed. How much more powerful would those ships have been if they would have been powered by the force? Imagine the power of one ship powered by god knows how many force users.

Then you have the ground battles, there is just no way the Empire could ever win a ground battle when you are facing a shit load of force users. Nobody could ever pull it off. The only one's that stand a chance against the Infinite Empire are the Ancient Sith, and then only because Ragnos can probably blow hundreds of them away and Sadow can start throwing stars.

And even then we don't know the power the Rakatan wield, but its probably pretty good because they had practiced for a very long time and had many years of training. So all in all, the Infinite Empire would slaughter pretty much everybody with the possible exception of Ragnos and his Sith.