Colossus vs. Sabertooth

Originally posted by Wynndar
Jinzin, bieng bonded on the molecular level makes no difference. That means that the adamantium cannot be removed from his bones. Itdoesnt change the fact that bone and adamantium end and connectve tissue/muscle begin in someplace, and that someplace can be ripped apart by the class 100 Colossus.

It's odd, but we're also talking about a dude made out of steel.

Calling it organic simply adds carbon into it. . . so its a carbon steel.

If it is individual Cells that are steel or adamantium bonded, that would allow either metal man to move. . .

Soft enough to move, hard enough to . . not. . . move?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Muscle is removed, arm is still intact, that which could be ripped should also be able to be burned or cut.

It's odd, but we're also talking about a dude made out of steel.

Calling it organic simply adds carbon into it. . . so its a carbon steel.

If it is individual Cells that are steel or adamantium bonded, that would allow either metal man to move. . .

Soft enough to move, hard enough to . . not. . . move?

Hard enough to not BE moved 😉

And FYI, colossus isn't made of organic steel.....he's made of RAAAAAAGEEEEEE mhm

~wickerman~

Um no...The reason Colossus can move is not because of the carbon Im sure. I think the writers called it organic because they thought organic was synonymous with living. Doesnt mean Wolverine's adamantium should be pliable like Colossus body. Now your trying too hard.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Hard enough to not BE moved 😉

And FYI, colossus isn't made of organic steel.....he's made of RAAAAAAGEEEEEE mhm

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wynndar
Um no...The reason Colossus can move is not because of the carbon Im sure. I think the writers called it organic because they thought organic was synonymous with living. Doesnt mean Wolverine's adamantium should be pliable like Colossus body. Now your trying too hard.

Living or not, it shouldn't allow him to move. 😉

If one can move they both can move, if one cannot move, neither can move.

Fair is fair.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Rage sure looks like organic steel. lol.

Why should one metal man beable to move and the other not?

Living or not, it shouldn't allow him to move. 😉

If one can move they both can move, if one cannot move, neither can move.

Fair is fair.

Ok...I guess there's no reason to debate with u. You're saying Wolverine's metal should be able to move like Colossus' even though Colossus' come from his mtant powers while Wolverine's adamantium is just man made, fixed, solid metal.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Ok...I guess there's no reason to debate with u. You're saying Wolverine's metal should be able to move like Colossus' even though Colossus' come from his mtant powers while Wolverine's adamantium is just man made, fixed, solid metal.

Wolverine moves, and has shown and been stated to be molecularly bonded. I can accept this.

Colossus moves and the organic steel has been said and shown to be his skin. I can accept this.

Wolverine, Sabertooth and Colossus have metal as part of them which in each case logically should keep them from moving. But does not.

I can accept this.

You for some odd reason cannot accept one, but willingly accept the other. Why is it that I'm the unreasonable one?

Clearly adamantium limbs can indeed be severed. As we've seen in AOA, Cyclops blasts off Wolvie left hand from the wrist up, hitting him right at the joint where his hand meets his forearm.

So, using that logic that has indeed happened, Colossus should be able to literally tug Sabretooth's arms off of his body. He'll probably have to use some effort, but I fully believe he can do it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Clearly adamantium limbs can indeed be severed. As we've seen in AOA, Cyclops blasts off Wolvie left hand from the wrist up, hitting him right at the joint where his hand meets his forearm.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So, using that logic that has indeed happened, Colossus should be able to literally tug Sabretooth's arms off of his body. He'll probably have to use some effort, but I fully believe he can do it.

AOA isn't 616. 🙂

ur hopeless

Which Sabretooth because the one on AOA he has a strength rating of 4 which is the same as Spider-Man?

Originally posted by Wynndar
ur hopeless

Because the AOA discarded the continuity of 616, it should be more credible?

Why? because it helps your case?

Wolverine can have his neck broken, dislocated whatever, it just needs strength. GREAT strength, but its not impossible.
There is muscle that holds the plates to the head yadda yadda, nice try.

The only thing protecting wolverine/sabretooth is the writers. But oh well...even so, Sabretooth would still get his ass kicked by Colossus. Colossus would punt his ass into another county. If sabretooth came back (I know you're going to say he will) Colossus will just punt him again.

Originally posted by Wynndar
The only thing protecting wolverine/sabretooth is the writers. But oh well...even so, Sabretooth would still get his ass kicked by Colossus. Colossus would punt his ass into another county. If sabretooth came back (I know you're going to say he will) Colossus will just punt him again.

The x factor, people bring this into the debates where it doesn't belong though...

Are people still arguing that Wolverine's skeleton is one large piece of metal - when clearly that's not the case even if you show scans where his muscle is burned off? Question: how does he still manage to move his arm with the nerves and muscle burnt off in some of the examples cited?

his telekinesis

True, my bad. Completely forgot about that power.

Originally posted by Wynndar
his telekinesis

anyways, if its bonded at an organic level, how come gambit can charge it???

TK and detachable penis...everyone always forgets those two.

now you are being wierd...... 😂